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Bigger Biceps/Arms: Full Body Exercises or Isolated Curls? Post # 31 ( permalink)
Jul. 15/09, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tenpercent  I find it odd how you guys are arguing a point that is individual. What works for one may not work for another. There is not best method. There are different methods. IMO the answer is to workout, put in some time and find at works for YOU. | No one is taking into consideration the state of the OP peel. Have you seen peel's routine? No! Then the rest of the discussion is academic mumbo jumbo.
Most of these guys "arguing" (as you call it) have been training for 5+/7+ years and what works for them is not what will work for a noob or the typical uneducated gym rat. In a typical gym biceps and chest are "prioritised" by many to the detriment of other muscle groups. |
Bigger Biceps/Arms: Full Body Exercises or Isolated Curls? Post # 32 ( permalink)
Jul. 15/09, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbeard No one is taking into consideration the state of the OP peel. Have you seen peel's routine? No! Then the rest of the discussion is academic mumbo jumbo.
Most of these guys "arguing" (as you call it) have been training for 5+/7+ years and what works for them is not what will work for a noob or the typical uneducated gym rat. In a typical gym biceps and chest are "prioritised" by many to the detriment of other muscle groups. | Exactly. And that is where the old "Everything works, nothing works forever" comes into play.  |
Bigger Biceps/Arms: Full Body Exercises or Isolated Curls? Post # 33 ( permalink)
Jul. 15/09, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Karky 10 weeks study won't be able to tell small differences, at least not with statistical significance.
About the gymnasts, like I said, pullups and chins will make your biceps grow, I never said they didn't. I just said that I don't see what's wrong with adding additional arm isolation. Without being able to find and read the entire study I can't really comment much more on it. But I do feel like you're twisting my words. Nothing I had ever said in this thread would suggest that gymnasts shouldn't have big arms.
also, I'm not able to find any other studies on the same subject. | karky i didnt intend to twist your words,my point in using gymnasts as an example is,you dont need to do curls to build big bis,infact most studies and empirical evidence show that big bis can be built without using curls at all,as i said before muscle growth is systemic,not localized.
if anyone wants to do curls there is certainly nothing wrong with but IMO its just burning more cals and isnt going to build more muscle than say chins/rows etc infact it can be overkill in a routine.  |
Bigger Biceps/Arms: Full Body Exercises or Isolated Curls? Post # 34 ( permalink)
Jul. 15/09, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chillen No.....
Not, if you are talking a steroid induced BB'er, what applies to them doesn't apply to a natural, and to even think about following a program designed for them with their steroid induced improved recovery, etc, etc, is not smart.
Good morning Biggie-T........sup?
Hope your day goes well!
Chillen | I know exactly what your saying Chillen 
But still, why would they do isolation curls? If curls didn't help get maximum bicep development, then wouldn't they just carry on doing more rows, pullups etc? |
Bigger Biceps/Arms: Full Body Exercises or Isolated Curls? Post # 35 ( permalink)
Jul. 15/09, 05:51 AM
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| | | I agree with the first part, you can grow big biceps without curls, but I think that for a lot of people it will be faster if you include some direct arm work, though this would probably depend on the amount of volume the bis and tris got from compound exercises. | | |
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