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    oicdn is offline Second Set
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    Sharp shoulder pain.

    For the past couple weeks, I've been having intermittent shoulder pain in ONLY my right shoulder. It's a sharp pain that feels DEEP in my shoulder.

    Below is a picture of the area:



    It's a sharp pain that feels like it's in the joint. Not like muscle soreness or a pulled muscle, but maybe something like a pinched nerve.

    When the pain started showing up, it was only when I when I started riding again. Specifically, when I did tricks on the front wheel like:



    Didn't hurt any other time, even during my workout routines. But it only showed up when I have the weight on my shoulders in THAT POSITION. Nose manuals, nose hops, gaps to front wheel, etc. When my arms are holding my body from hitting the bars and supporting/pushing away my body from the handlebars. Or, say I was trying to do do front raises with dumbells. Like this:



    Those are the only times it hurts. There's NOTHING in my left arm whatsoever. I've never had any shoulder problems or injuries either. If anything, I would expect this kind of behavior from my other shoulder, since that's the shoulder I used when dropping into things when breakdancing.

    I have full range of motion, and it doesn't hurt when I move my arm in any direction. Doesn't hurt during push-ups in any fashion, but today, noticed it was showing up when I did pull-ups. Not nearly to the level of when doing things on the front wheel of my bike, though. But it was definitely there.

    Anybody have any idea what I can do to alleviate this issue? or what the issue is at all?
    Last edited by oicdn; Oct. 05/08 at 07:19 PM.

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    phaledax is offline Second Set
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    hmm this is a good one, almost sounds like joint decay, maby in just one direction, it's possable that you favor your right arm to take more of the impact and over time it has worn in a single position, this is the best idea i got at the moment. start on glucosamine and chondroitin , this should help stop this decay/injury, wearing out. it's a good thing you caught this early if this is the problem i would expect a full recovery. good to use asprin with your suppli's if the pain crops up.

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    did you have any type of severe imapct to your shoulder? more indicative of a jamming motion? could be some damage to the cartilage in the joint. maybe a slight tears of a ligament. i'm not a doctor...just VERY familiar with shoulder related injuries.

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    sorta correcting myself here, just think that if it was cartilage or joint problems it should hurt in all directions.. hmmmm sorta lack of info for me, a strained tendon is also a possability comes to mind, again should be suttle pain through that motion,,, try taking you hand from the opposite side of your waist, and extend it up and out , over and behind your head. Test that tendon out.

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    Did that motion/stretch:



    No pain showed up.

    No impacts, straining or anything. Anything physical training related has been done to both sides. But no injuries to EITHER shoulder. No activities that I'm aware of that have me favoring my right arm causing it to strain more than my left.

    It was something that seemed to REALLY show it's face when I started biking. It was showing up when I started inclined push-ups, if you check my progress log thread, but it wasn't anything that stuck around or to the same degree. It was like there for one work-out, then not there the next couple. There the next work-out, then not there the next couple.

    Then yesterday, when I was doing pull-ups, I noticed it starting to show up. I noticed that it does show up when doing dips as well, but not to the same degree. But no other times or ranges of motion. I can hold my arms out in front of me with no pain whatsoever, but if I were to have weight in it, depending on the weight amount, the pain would show up.

    It doesn't linger, and it doesn't hurt unless I'm doing those specific motions. The pain goes away once I stop those actions. Which is why this is so frustrating as it doesn't hurt all the time, so I don't know how to fix or remedy it. Or simply know what it is
    Last edited by oicdn; Oct. 06/08 at 05:13 PM.

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    Eric L is offline Fourth Set
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    I see no one suggesting you go see a doctor.

    It could be a rotator cuff problem, tendinitis, torn muscle...etc. I doubt any of us can help you with this...

    I would stop before I'd get hurt and see a specialist ASAP. The more time you "try" and find your own solution, the more chances you get hurt or transform this problem into a chronic one.

    I had a similar problem in my left shoulder and the pain was only there when in a certain position. I went to the doctor, he specified some exercises and I have zero pain now.

    Hope you get this solved...

    good day

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    oicdn is offline Second Set
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    Yeah, I'm definitely gonna see one. just wondered if anybody had this same sort of problem and could get sorted without me having to pay some med bills, lol.

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    I have exactly the same symptoms as you that stems from a shoulder injury sustained while doing power cleans. I had too much weight on the bar and when I would lower the bar from chest height to waist height it was quite a jarring movement and my shoulder has hurt ever since.

    That was more than a year ago and I have the problem still today. My chiro says its a rotator cuff strain and that the affected muscle locks itself down so that no more damage can be done. As a result, the unaffected muscles in the cuff try to pick up the slack and do so pretty well, but when you apply weight in certain circumstances the arm bone bottoms out in the top of the joint and pinches some kind of nerve or bursae sack or something and thats what causes the sharp pain.

    He says that working out like normal would resolve the issue over time and based on my experience it does seem to help a lot as the pain subsides quite a bit when I've been in the gym regularly. However, I continually restrain the muscle doing stuff at home or work such as lifting my four year old son or emptying a heavy garbage can into a dumpster.

    My advice, don't worry about your medical bills and go see a doctor. This problem is brutal to say the least and seems unlikely to go away on its own.

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    I went to a massage therapist today (my exes friend is one) and when she put my wrist in my middle back while I was laying on my stomach and pressed my elbow down, the pain showed up. A good pain though, like when you're stretching a sore muscle. I could really feel it in the joint that it was getting "activated". So it may very well be a tendon or something that is injured? She was massaging my shoulder and nothing really affected it except that stretch.

    I started noticing it starting to show up if I try to pull up on the handlebars when like I pull the front end up to wheelie/manual. When before, it was only showing up when hopping on the front end.

    Also, theres a little joint stretch you can do where when you're sitting in a chair, clasp you hands around your knee and use your leg to pull your arms and kinda stretch the joint. That feels good when I do that and I can feel my arm somewhat pull out of the socket/stretch. I dunno if it's doing anything good or bad, but it feels good, lol.

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    Valentine817 is offline First Set
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    Typical shoulder pain is actually not the deltoid muscles at all but the muscles that create tendons that create the rotator cuff. So, get the rotator cuff checked out. Your therapist should be able to tell you which branch of the cuff is weak.

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    I think I know the spot you are talking about, oicdn.

    There are only two things that haved helped me when I got a a pain there: deep tissue massage including pressure point therapy (accupressure) & accupuncture w/ repeated visits. I've had a hard time getting health plans to pay for accupuncture, however, and I can no longer afford it. I've gone to doctors who gave me drugs & chiropractors, which helped it only if I kept going...and going...and going...(you get the idea)

    Since pressure point therapy is the easiest & least expensive therapy, I taught my husband after we met to reach that spot that is so far in w/ pressure point therapy (accupressure) EXACTLY the way you described w/ your massage therapist & it helps! (A LOT) I've never gotten rid of it entirely in 30 years, but sure can get relief from it, at least.

    Good luck!
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