that's a totally different emotion, and is nothing like a man attacking another man in rage because he 'feels like it'

So what happened?

Also do you do any punching or striking in your classes?

ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PB.........your a riot!
That is too funny, youngman.

It's like any other athletic skill. Someone properly trained and fit and with the right mindset will tear through untrained individuals. Even a seasoned thug will probably only have a few fights under his belt, most fought against untrained victims, so he'll have very little actual skill.

Even after a few months of MA you'll be proficient enough to give you a large advantage in "real situations", at least if you picked an MA that focuses on teaching you how to fight.

Yeah we did punching and kicking (I don't go to the class anymore) nothing fancy, just the standard kicks. We learned how to kick and punch hard, block kicks and punches etc. It was a very self defence orientated class, so there was quite a bit of fighting standing up.

What happened was he tried to choke me, I pulled him back with my legs, set my fot to his knee and pushed it back so it scraped along the pavement, this caused him to roll over and volla, I was on top. From there I told him to sod off and I jumped off him, his knee was scrubbed pretty bad and it looked like he diden't want to fight anymore so he walked off.

We dont do much standup work and no punching/kicking. We do occasionally work a takedown/submission from standing and blocking a strike.

I've always heard that you should never attack in anger.

Unless you're attacking a complete n00b I suppose =/

Imho you're missing most of the curriculum of actual fighting. In a real situation it may even put you in more danger if you try to use what you know. If you do a takedown and get the guy to the ground, you're in a world of trouble if he has friends nearby.

I think he's talking about aggression and determination, which is essential and very different from uncontrolled anger and blind rage.

But at the same time, In a stand up fight, and a guy has friends, you're in a world of troubble if you don't know any grappling. Since chanses are very high one of them will grab you. And no, you can't just roundhouse kick everyone standing around you in a circle like in the movies.

I'm not saying grappling is worthless. If you get grabbed and pulled down, grappling is what's going to save you, it's a very good skill to have. But even then, imho your goal should be to get out and back up ASAP, preferably having striked, kicked or headbutted the guy on the way. Grappling skill is an essential escape tool.

In a real situation you don't want to fight on the ground. You can't see, can't move, can't defend yourself from other attackers. If you're getting attacked by two or more and one manages to pull you down, you have to outclass them by a lot to make it, if that's how the situation opens that just sucks because odds are you're going to lose. Even if you're a grappling master, kicks are going to be raining down on you, or you're going to have to grapple 2 guys at once.

The preferred way to handle multiple attackers is to move, keep them in front of you and get them lined up, and punch and kick whoever gets near. This guy does a great job of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyokcLPl8wM. Getting pulled down in that situation, the mob wins, even if he's as good at grappling as boxing.

Another good thing about grappling is in a friendly environment you might need to subdue someone instead of knocking them senseless, maybe he's a friend, doesn't deserve worse, or you don't want the situation to escalate (for safety or legal reasons). Having non-violent options are great.

Obviously Karky left out the obligatory -

Unless you are Chuck Norris.

Lawl.

Chuck Norris is so tough, when he takes off his shirt, his opponents usually back down.



Incidentally, that's also true for me

Ahh, how could I? I deserve a roundhouse kick in the butt


And yeah I agree that in multiple oponent situation, you need to stay on your feet. It's great to be able to throw someone quickly if they get too close, but if you get down, it's a split second and all of the mob will be stepping on you. Best chanse is to move so you don't get surrounded. Keep the attackers in front of you where you can see all of them. If you see one is in a position where you can attack (just for a second, a swiff kick or something) without the others interfering, then go for it.

Also, with multiple oponents, chanses are you will loose no matter what you do. The best chanse you have is to scare them, you have to show them you are friggin crazy. Best way to do this, unfortunatly, is to hurt one of them in such a way the the others won't dare to attack. It's usually one who first comes (the leader, the tought guy) there are always doubters. If you deal with this first guy swiffly and effectivly, hurting him, the doubters will soon doubt even more. That is your best chanse. Only do this if the attackers are out to seriously hurt you though. If they just want to give you a scare, push you around a bit, etc. It's usually best to just let them, since violence from you then will only escalate the situation. But then again, it's hard to tell if they want to kill you or just tell you they think you're an idiot

If you're going against multiple opponents who have intent to kill, and if you can't run, you're probably already dead.

Nicolas provided a good example of keeping distance and having the attackers set up so they come at you one at a time...although those idiots should have taken a hint the first time and regrouped or something.

The biggest asset you can have is resourcefulness. And maybe a gun. Or a stick of dynamite.

Remember that video of the bald guy who rips his shirt off and starts beating down on those four opponents. That was bad ass. Only one actually tried to fight back and the others just took a few to the face.

This is how its done: Scared Knockout