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  Bulking for boxing. Post #31 (permalink)  
Old Aug. 19/07, 02:48 PM
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Please clarify what you meant by this...
If you scroll up a little bit you'll see i already answered you. CCR asked if my lifts had improved and that was my answer to him.


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Take it from someone who did it wrong for years: Don't bulk up using sugary weight gain shakes and/or pigging out on fast food. Eat good, clean foods and you won't have to worry about losing so much fat later on that you jeopardize a lot of the muscle you gained
Yeah i'm not loading up on fatty foods and stuff i'm just taking bigger servings of my normal food and eating more often.
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Old Aug. 20/07, 02:04 AM
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Make sure you don't neglect your legs. A lot of men do this by only working out their upper body and eating more. Eventually, they develop good muscles on top and their legs are not changed, resulting in a very funny looking body. Just my opinion . . .
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  Bulking for boxing. Post #33 (permalink)  
Old Aug. 20/07, 02:36 AM
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Too much protein. A more correct ratio is 20/55/25
A 40/40/20 split is widely recommended for building muscle, why do you say that's too much protein?
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Old Aug. 20/07, 03:28 AM
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You could maybe bump up the protein to 25 but you really don't need much more than that, your body just isn't going to use it.
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Old Aug. 20/07, 03:31 AM
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If you scroll up a little bit you'll see i already answered you. CCR asked if my lifts had improved and that was my answer to him.
Yeah i already read that but i don't understand it. What lifts were 20kgs that are now 35 - 40kg? Is it the total amount combined that you're lifting for all of the exercises?
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You could maybe bump up the protein to 25 but you really don't need much more than that, your body just isn't going to use it.
How could you possibly know that? People can use nutrients differently, more or less than the average.

Just like different people people respond better to different workouts.

Even so, breaking down a diet to percentages of the macro-nutrients is a pain in the A$$ most people will never really hit it spot on.

Eat one gram of protein for each pound of bodyweight and twenty times that number in daily calories. It is simple and easy to keep track of.

The only variables to keep track of are protein, calories, and the quality of the fats and carbohydrates. Like carbs from twinkies are bad, carbs from oatmeals are good.
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Old Aug. 21/07, 03:20 AM
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Make sure you don't neglect your legs. A lot of men do this by only working out their upper body and eating more. Eventually, they develop good muscles on top and their legs are not changed, resulting in a very funny looking body. Just my opinion . . .
Yeah i'm working the legs just as hard as the upper body with plenty of squats and deadlifts (and leg presses and stuff when i get to go to the gym) and seeing some good progress.

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Yeah i already read that but i don't understand it. What lifts were 20kgs that are now 35 - 40kg? Is it the total amount combined that you're lifting for all of the exercises?
As in when i started doing weights i was using 20kg on all my exercises and now i'm using 40kg for all my exercises generally apart from i add more for leg press and take a bit off for curls.
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Old Aug. 21/07, 11:48 PM
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How could you possibly know that? People can use nutrients differently, more or less than the average.
Because it's basic nutrition.

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Just like different people people respond better to different workouts.
Deffinately

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Even so, breaking down a diet to percentages of the macro-nutrients is a pain in the A$$ most people will never really hit it spot on.
You bet

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Eat one gram of protein for each pound of bodyweight and twenty times that number in daily calories. It is simple and easy to keep track of.
It sure is


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The only variables to keep track of are protein, calories, and the quality of the fats and carbohydrates. Like carbs from twinkies are bad, carbs from oatmeals are good.
There's no such thing as a bad carb.
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