ok i think i will. thanks you've helped a lot

You're quite welcome. Keep us posted on your results.

I hate to jump on ya, because I feel like you've given a lot of good advice throughout the forum, however I don't think I would advise any kind of split routine to someone who's new to training and looking to "get big for football".
I can't think of many instances in football (or life for that matter) where you only need strength in one half of your body, so why would you train that way?

I say you definitely START with a full-body routine incorporating overhead and bench presses, front & back squats (LOTS OF SQUATS), deadlifts, and cleans. The majority of your strength comes from your bodies ability to transfer movement from your legs and through your core - your training should incorporate that as much as possible. "Bi's and Tri's" should not be a staple in your routine, however you can throw them onto the end of a workout if you feel it's necessary.

Finally, if you're looking to get big, you'll probably need to eat a lot more than 1800 calories, depending on your current size. You can certainly get stronger on that amount of food, but you wont get much bigger.

I appreciate your concern. Did you read post #12 though?

A workout split is a term given to how you split up your workout. More like: "What days you do what muscle group". For example, doing biceps back and legs on Monday, and doing triceps shoulders and chest on Wednesday or Thursday is a workout split. You are still covering all of the major muscles once a week.

In any case- read post #12 again.

I re-read post 12, but still stick to what I said. Granted, he might prefer a split and you provided decent enough help with that - props to you on providing advice based on his request.

However, I fail to see the need for anyone new to training to split anything up. From a functional physical strength perspective, is there ever a time where you need your chest to function at max capacity without the use of your core, legs, back, etc?

Honestly, I'm sorry if my post came across as an attack on what you posted, I didn't mean it that way. I really do think you offer a lot of good information and you're an asset to the forum. Plus I think you'r avatar is cool, and I might have those same sunglasses - I just had to chime on the general ineffeciency and lack of applicability of a split routine when training for function.

No offense taken. I totally agree that a full body workout when you are just starting out is the way to go. But after looking at the program that he was doing initially and how he had it split up.. I felt I had to throw some options out there. Haha

You look fairly tone man.

Remember this is my guess but I think you have muscle IMBALANCE on the pecs (chest). It seems to me that your outer and lower chest are really well developed BUT the interior and upper chest is really flat. Try doing some dumbell flat bench and hold and contract at the top with both db's touching for 2 seconds; same with flies and incline. Try doing incline bench first with db's. Get those interior and upper chest more develope and skip on decline bench for the time being (well, do them twice a month).

You might have a very mild case of Gynecomastia. A large portion of teenagers at puberty develope it and it generally subsides. It is caused, well it's speculated, by an estrogen imbalence in the body. Your case is so mild that keeping a low body fat can probably hide the Gyne, but you won't be able to get rid of it unless you do surgery to remove it. Gynecomastia surgery ranges from 2,800 to about 8 grand I believe.

The only reason why I say surgery is the way to go is because I haven't heard of any other "solutions" to work. You hear testimonies but those are obviously shakey considering it's probably a bogus product.

Personally, I would see a doctor to see if it is truely Gynecomastia. It's difficult to tell from the pictures and it is very non-threatening to health. Just mental health if it bugs ya that much.

my weight is 80kg...
should we use more weights in gym???
can u suggest me some useful tips so tat i can bring shape in my body in a quick time.

You're not the only one sfkniner, I am in the same boat as you, overall in decent shape but can't get ride of my moobs. My doctor doubted I had Gynecomastia, so I am trying a low carb diet with a 5 day split routine to remedy this before looking into surgery. Going under the knife scares me! I agree it's really confusing (and frustrating) when 50% of people compliment you and the other 50% claim you have tits! I'm going to keep an eye on your thread and will post updates if I happen to make any good progress. Good luck and don't give up!

How much soy do you eat/drink?

There is considerable evidence that soy contributes to breast development in men:

Soy's Negative Effects - Men's Health

They are almost there, just need to trim some fat off them and you have good pecs.

Train hard, eat well, less fat maybe and you are ready to the beach and oil up big time

I think these are peck's they look pretty solid from the front view. It's probably just your body build..you sound like you have a great diet so I can't see it being anything else.