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Sep. 13/08, 02:47 PM
| | In Orientation | | Join Date: Jul 2008
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| | | Calories from juice Welch's 100% Grape juice (269mL) gives 210 calories.
I am at a point where I can't increase the amount of food I can eat a day because I don't have a big appetite and my schedule only allows me to eat a few times a day.
So I am wondering. I eat around 3400 Calories a day, I go to the gym 4x a week, and drink 1 protein shake a day. Will increasing 1000 calories from just 5x Grape Juices really help me increase weight?
I am wondering because a foot long "Subway" Italian sandwich contains less then 600 calories, but it fills me up a lot. I can barely eat all of it, but I can drink 5x of these grape juices with ease. It would take too much to explain what I am trying to ask, but you get the idea. | 
Sep. 13/08, 03:07 PM
|  | Pleasantly Perverted | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Perv Parlor
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| | | You'll increase in weight, but it won't be muscle. You need protein to build muscle, not carbs.
It's not just about calories; it's about the type of calorie you're ingesting, i.e., protein, fat and carbs.
Take a look at the grape juice ... 100% carbs. You're ingesting 40g of sugars in every 8oz cup (and a total of 42g of carbs). (But you do get the benefit of antioxidants!) If you drink five 8oz glasses of grape juice everyday, you've just sucked back 200g of sugar (and 210g of carbs). That's brutal and doesn't include the rest of the hidden sugars and carbs you're probably consuming in a day.
How much protein/fat/carbs are you getting in the 12" Italian sub? I know you'll get protein from the meat, and there's probably fat in there, too (most meat has some fat content).
Although there are the same number of calories, the breakdown is very different, therefore, drinking grape juice is not equal to eating a 12" sub if you're looking at the protein/fat/carb ratio.
So IMO it's not a good trade-off.
Eat your meat. | 
Sep. 14/08, 02:15 AM
| | In Orientation | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: India
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| | | Please see 100grams of blue variety grapes contain
moisture 82.2%
proteins 0.6%
fat 0.3%
minerals 0.9%
carbohydrates 13.1%
calorie 58
calcium 20mg
phosphorous 23mg
Iron 0.5mg
vitamin C 31mg
so it is not correct that by consuming grape juice you are having 100% carbohydrates, as matter of fact there are certain chemicals in fruits which are still to be explored by science.Also vitamins and minerals found in fruits are easily absorbed in body.Don't take empty calories like sugar and alcohol, instead take natural diet. There is no denying the fact that we need protein to build muscles, but a balanced diet of grains,pulses, vegetables,fruits,milk,nuts,chicken,and fish gives adequate protein,carbohydrates and fats to live a healthy life. a few of the herbivores have good muscular structures,even plants and vegetables give them enough protein to sustain the life, though their protein requirements are much higher than humans. As per as muscles are concerned keep on doing your gym and progressively increase the weights. By doing this.your muscle mass will increase. Taking excess protein is also not good for body.Moderation is the key to good health | 
Sep. 14/08, 09:39 AM
|  | Deceptimod | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nebraska
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| | | Sandeep, poster never stated they were taking in 'excess protein'...so don't make any assumptions.
1,000cals of juice isn't good, and it'll rot yer teeth :P
keep working on eating more. bump to 7 meals a day. drink plenty of water, at least a gallon a day. your body WILL start processing food faster. | 
Sep. 14/08, 10:31 AM
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| | | I though juice was suppose to be very healthy, but I can see why it's not all positives because of too much sugar.
So how will drinking a lot of water help me? Won't it decrease my appetite? I drink around 1.5 liters a day just water that does not include other drinks.
If so how should I drink water. Like certain time before I eat or after? And should I separate 1 gallon into how many drinks a day? Around 6? | 
Sep. 14/08, 07:26 PM
|  | Sianara | | Join Date: Oct 2005
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| | | Post your daily diet. Lets see where we can sneak in calories. | 
Sep. 14/08, 07:48 PM
|  | I love me some Mreik | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Behind Mreik, waxing his back
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by brazuca I though juice was suppose to be very healthy, but I can see why it's not all positives because of too much sugar.
So how will drinking a lot of water help me? Won't it decrease my appetite? I drink around 1.5 liters a day just water that does not include other drinks.
If so how should I drink water. Like certain time before I eat or after? And should I separate 1 gallon into how many drinks a day? Around 6? | Because the juice you're talking about is cooked which strips it of its nutrients. Then they are added back in. But what you're stuck with is the sugar from the juice and nothing else to balance out the insulin spike you'll receive from the juice.
You'd be much better off eating the grapes or other fruits.
Why don't you start off small? 1 cup of cottage cheese before bed. A couple ounces of cheese as a snack. A glass of milk and an egg for breakfast. A couple ounces of almonds a couple times a day. | 
Sep. 14/08, 07:48 PM
|  | I love me some Mreik | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Behind Mreik, waxing his back
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Originally Posted by sandeepyoga Please see 100grams of blue variety grapes contain
moisture 82.2%
proteins 0.6%
fat 0.3%
minerals 0.9%
carbohydrates 13.1%
calorie 58
calcium 20mg
phosphorous 23mg
Iron 0.5mg
vitamin C 31mg
so it is not correct that by consuming grape juice you are having 100% carbohydrates, as matter of fact there are certain chemicals in fruits which are still to be explored by science.Also vitamins and minerals found in fruits are easily absorbed in body.Don't take empty calories like sugar and alcohol, instead take natural diet. There is no denying the fact that we need protein to build muscles, but a balanced diet of grains,pulses, vegetables,fruits,milk,nuts,chicken,and fish gives adequate protein,carbohydrates and fats to live a healthy life. a few of the herbivores have good muscular structures,even plants and vegetables give them enough protein to sustain the life, though their protein requirements are much higher than humans. As per as muscles are concerned keep on doing your gym and progressively increase the weights. By doing this.your muscle mass will increase. Taking excess protein is also not good for body.Moderation is the key to good health | The actual grapes and cooked, processed grape juice are completely different. | 
Sep. 28/08, 01:22 AM
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| | | fruits Yes I agree one should take natural grapes instead of processed ones. sugar found in natural form is not so bad as made out to be. Though excess of every thing is bad but a moderate intake of natural sugar found in fruits can provide healthy energy for workouts, along with vitamins and anti-oxidants. | 
Sep. 28/08, 01:45 AM
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| | | What Tony said. It's a lot easier than most people seem to think to add quality calories. The trick is having a solid nutritional foundation to build on in the first place. From the information provided, it would appear you do not. Edit: Also, what evo said, if that wasn't obvious. :P
Last edited by [Focus]; Sep. 28/08 at 01:58 AM.
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Sep. 28/08, 05:38 AM
|  | Fourth Set | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phillyish
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| | | To add, calories from liquid tend not to get 'registered' similar to those coming from solid foods. Our bodies are not as sensitive to the former compared to the latter. This means it can lead to overconsumption of calories rather easily. | 
Sep. 29/08, 12:15 PM
|  | Second Set | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: issiquah washington state
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| | | alternative solution for yah: if you wish to keep on the juice, i would invest in a home juicer then buy your produce and add it there, this allows you to make your own blends and can mix that with any powder or ideas you come up with. I do this at my home | 
Oct. 01/08, 07:34 PM
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| | | What do you think is the best type of juice I should drink while I eat?
When I eat foods like rice, beans, chicken, green beans, salmon, and beef.
I was thinking maybe the V8 juices that are made of both fruits and vegetables. I don't know any ideas?
Remember I want to gain weight, hopefully from lean muscle. | 
Oct. 01/08, 08:27 PM
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| | | I hope I'm not screwing myself by drinking almost exclusively Gatorade/Powerade and 100% pure apple juice (usually "Simply Apple" brand). I've been using those drinks since they are high in caloric content, are absorbed quickly, and replenish the sodium and potassium I sweat out. Crap....now I have to go reevaluate again, lol. | 
Oct. 03/08, 11:25 AM
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| | | Any natural or organic juice is fine, but be careful with most commercial juices WAY TO MUCH SUGAR!! |  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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