Right, so like it said it should be a smooth transition. The one thing that is confusing me right now, and RWS I might ignore you right now because I'm not sure if your results are atypical (no offense) but:

In the carb cycling codex Thibaudeau says that carb cycling is a great way to add mass and lose fat. However later on in the article he says that once you find your daily caloric expenditure, he says to gain muscle mass increase it by 20% and to lose fat decrease it by 20%. This seems very contradictory, as he said you can do both at the same time. Can someone explain this to me. What would make sense to me is if you are in a surplus on days when you are training and taking in more carbs, and a deficit on days when you arent and consuming minimal carbs.

dd he say it exactly that you could gain muscle and loe fat at the same time? or did he just say it's a good way to gain muscle and lose fat? He could simply mean that carb cycling is good for both goals, but not necissarily simuntaniously.

Yeah I have thought about this too... I don't understand how I could have lost this much fat and gained this much muscle over this time period.

I guess the only way I can think to explain it is that I burned off the fat overnight?

Or for some reason or another my body starts to burn fat in the portion of the day where I don't have carbs...I am not even doing any cardio though.

So, we'll see what happens next time.

Hmm I guess he doesn't say you can do both explicitly, so he may have meant it was good for both goals. However he does state: It'll allow you to include maximum fat burning days and maximum muscle accumulation days in each week.

I guess you could interpret that as only doing one at a time. But would it make sense to cycle calories as well to switch between deficit and surplus throughout the week or would that mess things up?

This isnt really carb cycling as much as it nutrient timing. Glad it worked regardless.

Wurd. I dunno how many times I've boasted this either... sheesh.

what do you mean? This works for you too?

lol.. Yeah, it works for mee

IMO nutrient timing is more important than overall macros, and eventually I'll write a few pages on it whenever I have time to breath with school..

can you tell me a bit about how you did this?

I am mainly interested in what you did on your off days? Today I have only had about 50g of carbs and it's a non training day.

What did you do?

It wasn't the set up you've got at all. It was all focused on nutrient timing, getting down into meal compilation/timing and adjusting macros day to day.

ehhhh, could you be more specific?


I think mine is like that. I time the carbs around when I will use them up in a very short amount of time.

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check the articles, you'll see what mreik is talking about

Glad you are seeing success with your program.

Just curious, what method was used to test your body fat?

just a bodyfat scale... haha just kidding.


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