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Old Jan. 19/08, 04:39 PM
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"when carbs are continually combined with saturated fats , as in the average american eating lifestyle , the body cannot defend itself against all the unnatural occurances that happen as a result of this combo ; thus these metabolic diseases were born. keto is the way nature intended us to eat. meat. veggies. nuts. occassional fruit and honey."
Thats probably the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
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Old Jan. 19/08, 05:05 PM
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Anywho, did I miss something Spicy? Weren't you the one a few threads ago claiming that carbs aren't bad even in their refined form?
No, I never claimed that.

A lot of people here seem to think that carbs in their refined form (like dextrose and maltodextrin) are absolutely fine. In fact, I think derwyddon said that. From all of the reading I have done, and not from just one book, I've come to the conclusion that highly refined carbs like dextrose and maltodextrin are very very bad for our systems. Dextrose is probably worse than table sugar.

My point is, many people on this forum think refined carbs are fine. If they're using "supplements" like dextrose then they're obviously fine with eating one of the most refined sugars available. I'm not fine with it, I stick to fruit and honey.
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Old Jan. 19/08, 05:06 PM
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This is nothing but a website or book trying to sell you on buying their keto products or into the keto "lifestyle"
Actually it was from a conversation with a guy on keto on bodybuilding.com.
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No, I never claimed that.

A lot of people here seem to think that carbs in their refined form (like dextrose and maltodextrin) are absolutely fine. In fact, I think derwyddon said that. From all of the reading I have done, and not from just one book, I've come to the conclusion that highly refined carbs like dextrose and maltodextrin are very very bad for our systems. Dextrose is probably worse than table sugar.

My point is, many people on this forum think refined carbs are fine. If they're using "supplements" like dextrose then they're obviously fine with eating one of the most refined sugars available. I'm not fine with it, I stick to fruit and honey.
You prob don't believe in vaccines either eh?
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No, I never claimed that.

...My point is, many people on this forum think refined carbs are fine. If they're using "supplements" like dextrose then they're obviously fine with eating one of the most refined sugars available. I'm not fine with it, I stick to fruit and honey.
There's a very big difference between taking dextrose, maltodextrin or glucose PWO to maximize gains and recovery and thinking it's okay to be eating the kind of junk food you would normally find them in. During a certain window after weight training, a properly proportioned simple carb in conjunction with a high availability protein is more than just fine, it's believed to be ideal (by many "authorities" on the subject).

I don't think very many knowledgeable persons here would recommend consuming refined carbohydrates at most other times. I hope you don't take offense when I say that your facility with deductive logic may need some work. Basically, what mreik and Derywddon said, only nicer and more verbose.

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Old Jan. 19/08, 07:29 PM
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So you'll eat white bread, pumpkin pie, starve all day adn shove yourself full at night, nothing but yogurt for breakfast, but you wont consume dextrose ONLY AT STRATEGIC TIMES to help feed and repair muscle?
I'm not so sure what you are trying to get at with this post. Who ever said that I eat white bread or starve myself all day? Quite frankly, I am insulted by this. I also don't shove myself full at night. You really don't know me well enough to jump to conclusions like this. You don't know how I eat or what I eat at this point in my life.

I still think it's healthier, and more natural, to eat fruit after a workout than to consume a highly refined corn sweetener. But hey, that's just my opinion.

This is the only time I will say this, don't jump to conclusions or use hostility to prove your point. I understand where you are coming from, but based on my experiences with some of your and other people on this forum's dietary recommendations, it doesn't work for me.

Oh, and one more point, I know that dextrose, with a GI of 100 is the most efficient way to raise blood sugar levels after a workout but it's not worth it to me. I would much rather build muscle more slowly than possibly risk the health side affects of consuming so much sugar at once. I'm not in the mood to get type 2 diabetes or heart disease when I get old.

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Old Jan. 19/08, 11:17 PM
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You really think you're going to get diabetes from strategically using a high GI carb? You're wrong, I'm sorry, and to take strong stances without educating yourself makes you look young and naive.

I made those statements out of things YOU post on this site.
That still doesn't mean you know how I eat now.
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Old Jan. 20/08, 03:25 PM
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here's some good stuff that supports high fat diets..

YouTube - Big Fat Lies
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Old Jan. 20/08, 07:57 PM
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I've talked to a lot of people about saturated fats because I am eating a ton of them in my keto diet.

They say:

"keto is the way nature intended us to eat. meat. veggies. nuts. occassional fruit and honey."
If you are going to make a paleolithic / evolutionary argument about it, then you nay want to rethink the saturated fats. Wild animal meat was likely to be a lot leaner than today's domesticated meat (wild animals run around all day looking for food and avoiding becoming someone else's food). And the types of fats that they contain are likely to be much less saturated (and probably more omega-3 poly unsaturated fats, like wild caught fish) than today's domesticated meat. Paleolithic humans living in arctic climates would obviously have fatty meat, but the fat was probably not very saturated, because the animals wouldn't be able to move if it was.

Also, the high volume of whatever vegetables and fruits that would be gathered would likely provide enough carbohydrates to stay out of ketosis. Obviously, such carbohydrates would come in higher fiber and more nutrient-dense forms than sugar and white bread.
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Old Jan. 21/08, 02:16 AM
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hey!
stop eating those buger,I am sure you will be alright.
lol !!!
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God damn I'm hungry. I'd love one of those burgers. Maybe two.
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God damn I'm hungry. I'd love one of those burgers. Maybe two.
Fatty.

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Old Jan. 23/08, 05:52 AM
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Since I've been eating clean my local Don Pablo's went out of business. Coincidence? I think not!
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The location on Montgomery road?
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Kemper Road actually , but you have been outed as a Cincinnatian
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