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Oct. 23/07, 03:49 PM
|  | Bond Boy | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by amp89 Not true, it can be edited by anyone in the entire world. So if they put in something that the editors of wikipedia don't know about it just slips by, meaning that a whole lot of information on wikipedia can be false. | Exactly. Anyone can change wiki. How about you go try to change something on wiki and tell me if it actually gets changed?
They have things that alert them to when ever someone changes information on an article, and for the article to actually be changed for real it has to be verified by the wiki community and then goes into effect
Its not as easy as just changing it and clicking save.
I have seen nothing inaccurate in all my life from wikipedia. Most reliable source I use for homework and personal reasons.
Or about finding me something false on the information on wiki? | 
Oct. 23/07, 04:00 PM
|  | Bond Boy | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern California
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| | | Those occasions are rare, and in my personal experience have always found wiki to be accurate and helpful. | 
Oct. 23/07, 04:38 PM
|  | Level I Burpee Performer | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: wherever the wind takes me...
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| | | No I would agree, especially for high school work. I always used that on history homeworks, and even though every teacher would say don't use it you can't trust it, I would do it anyway, but you have to know that everything on there isn't necessarily true. This is especially important when you are looking at either very mundane topics, or highly specific topics where the editors may not be knowledgeable enough to know whether or not something is true. | 
Oct. 23/07, 05:15 PM
|  | Verge of Overtraining | | Join Date: May 2007
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| | | Grams for grams, 1 gram of protein provides 4 calories, and 1 gram of carbs provides 4 calories. Fat provides double at 9 calories per gram.
Strictly speaking, eating purely protien will be the same as eating purely carbs.
As for cutting it out of your diet? A big no no. First off, carbs are the body's primary energy source. By fueling your body with protein, you're asking to feeling tired and down most of the time. Also, tissue and other vital organs in your body require carbs to rebuild itself.
Ask Dr. Atkins who died of a massive heart attack (I didn't know until CCR said something one day). Why? Some say it's because he's genetically predeposed to have one... other people, which I believe, is because his diet lacked carbs. | 
Oct. 23/07, 07:09 PM
|  | Needs to Deload | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney
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Originally Posted by Phate89 Yes, Wiki is a credible source - protein is still used effeciently in HIIT when on no carbs |
you have a lot to learn my friend | 
Oct. 23/07, 07:13 PM
|  | Bond Boy | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by matt182 you have a lot to learn my friend | 1. Wiki is a credible source ( to me anyway )
2. I said protein can still be converted into energy for your HIIT session, but also stated that carbs would be more efficient ( if you didn't take my quote out of context ) | 
Oct. 23/07, 08:05 PM
|  | Sianara | | Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Phate89 I have seen nothing inaccurate in all my life from wikipedia. Most reliable source I use for homework and personal reasons. | How old are you, 16? You've been using wiki for what, a year? Even so if you have no prior knowledge of a topic and are going to wikipedia for information, how would you know it was false or true if you dont know about the topic?
Wikipedia wasnt allowed as a source in my classes because it is not credible. | 
Oct. 23/07, 08:07 PM
|  | Sianara | | Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Dallen Grams for grams, 1 gram of protein provides 4 calories, and 1 gram of carbs provides 4 calories. Fat provides double at 9 calories per gram.
Strictly speaking, eating purely protien will be the same as eating purely carbs.
As for cutting it out of your diet? A big no no. First off, carbs are the body's primary energy source. By fueling your body with protein, you're asking to feeling tired and down most of the time. Also, tissue and other vital organs in your body require carbs to rebuild itself.
Ask Dr. Atkins who died of a massive heart attack (I didn't know until CCR said something one day). Why? Some say it's because he's genetically predeposed to have one... other people, which I believe, is because his diet lacked carbs. | Protein the same as carbs?  Not when we start talking about insulin responses.
I recently read an excerpt from a study that followed dieters for 10 years who were low carb. They were actually healthier then the carb eating counterparts...(note:this is a short excerpt from the excerpt) | 
Oct. 23/07, 08:31 PM
|  | Needs to Deload | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney
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| | | dont get to excited about that | 
Oct. 23/07, 08:38 PM
|  | Sianara | | Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by matt182 dont get to excited about that | Who? What? | 
Oct. 23/07, 09:42 PM
|  | Request Title Change from Admin | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Zealand
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| | Yeah wiki is not a good source at all. Theres some good journal articles on website like PubMed Home
Much more reputable and then you can quote them. | 
Oct. 24/07, 12:15 AM
|  | Needs to Deload | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney
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Originally Posted by tonymcclellan Who? What? | i mean cum'on, you would also aprecciatley find articles that find those who have low fat diets are also healthier.
Obviously higher amounts of carbs ecspecially simple refined sugars arnt going to be crash hot. Lets not forget the large amounts of variables that exist many of which are uncontrollable....
Thats why you have so much uncertainty whether particular foods are directly linked to cancer and if so to what degree, thats why its all "thought to be"....etc | 
Oct. 24/07, 07:27 AM
|  | Bond Boy | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by tonymcclellan How old are you, 16? You've been using wiki for what, a year? Even so if you have no prior knowledge of a topic and are going to wikipedia for information, how would you know it was false or true if you dont know about the topic?
Wikipedia wasnt allowed as a source in my classes because it is not credible. |
18, and 4-5 years. Citing wikipedia is not permitted in my classes either but I still use it. I have enough trust in the wiki system..thats just me. | 
Oct. 24/07, 08:52 AM
|  | Second Set | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denmark
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Originally Posted by Dallen Grams for grams, 1 gram of protein provides 4 calories, and 1 gram of carbs provides 4 calories. Fat provides double at 9 calories per gram.
Strictly speaking, eating purely protien will be the same as eating purely carbs.
As for cutting it out of your diet? A big no no. First off, carbs are the body's primary energy source. By fueling your body with protein, you're asking to feeling tired and down most of the time. Also, tissue and other vital organs in your body require carbs to rebuild itself.
Ask Dr. Atkins who died of a massive heart attack (I didn't know until CCR said something one day). Why? Some say it's because he's genetically predeposed to have one... other people, which I believe, is because his diet lacked carbs. | On low carb/keto diets you're not fueling your body with protein, you're fueling it with fat. And you do take regular amounts of carbs, some each day, and carb loading days where you get "normal" amount of carbs. |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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