High protein consumption & Kidney health?
What sort of questions did this doctor ask you?
Originally Posted by BigTomW
Common sense says, he/she asks about any medications you are taking or have taken since the last visit, your diet circumference, and things you eat regularly (specifics), so on and so forth, etc, etc. Basically, questions that can bring out the cause of the problem.
If you are having bloating complications, common sense says that it can be attributed to many, many things in one's diet and proper/improper organ function, and it doesn't immediately default to Protein consumption.
Additionally, we have to define what high protein is (as it relates to the logistics of the other macro nutrients being consumed) to the the person in question, and whether they have normal organ functions (i.e. Kidney function).
Have you had any blood/urine work completed? Did she/he recommend you get one to ensure proper organ function, etc, etc.
May be a good idea........especially your liver.....with the amount of alcohol you drink..............>
Last edited by Chillen; Aug. 13/09 at 04:47 AM.
docs suck at nutrition, they are not nutritionists and don't learn a lot about it either. There is no evidence that high protein intake harms the kidneys as long as you're healthy.
Cheers for the replies Kark/Chill..
Well tbh Chillen, she jumped straight to the conclusion that the high protein consumption is the culprit. That was it basically, nothing else said. It was more 'lower your protein intake or you will keep getting frequent bloating'. I think the next trip i take i'm going to get some more info and ask what other possible causes there are.
You always have to bring up the alcohol don't you
maybe you should see a nutritionist.. if you can afford it, that is? I doubt it's covered by your government. Maybe you're intolerant to lactose or gluten.
Maybe your right, won't be affording it yet I don't trust doctors about this sort of stuff anyway!
Originally Posted by Karky
Define your bloat symptoms more specifically.
Well basically it usually starts whilst im at work, anything almost can start it off, even a simple tuna salad.
Originally Posted by Chillen
-First symptoms include my stomach making weird noises, and a feeling of trapped wind as though i need to burp (but i cannot make myself burp).
-As the day goes on, drinking/eating becomes harder, more wind builds up and i become very uncomfortable.
-Sometimes i have to put my fingers down my throat and try to puke, usually ill end up burping first and this releases some air/pressure and does make me feel slightly better. But usually it comes back and doesn't go fully untill im at home and can chill & lay down.
I think laying down seems to be the best cure, but at work i can't exactly do this. A possible cause i thought about could be the seated position im at in the office all day, which maybe traps wind etc.
Look up Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) online from quality sources. Also look up acid-indigestion (indigestion in general, acid reflux, Oedema, gastric problems, symptoms, and cures, etc, from quality sources).
Originally Posted by BigTomW
Additionally, it wouldn't be a bad idea to track the type of foods you are eating (or just have a plain solid idea) for a while (such as milk products with meals or protein shakes, etc, your water and potassium consumption), to give to a professional in order to have some foundation to form good opinions from. This is a very short list of "could-be's", and to equate it to protein right from the start --->(the doc) is stupid ().
Some people can have acid problems in the stomach, which can cause gastronomical complications (such as air in the stomach).
Last edited by Chillen; Aug. 13/09 at 08:08 AM.
Is Eating a High Protein Diet Damaging To Your Kidney Health?
Question: Is Eating a High Protein Diet Damaging To Your Kidney Health?
Very often I am asked if eating the amount of protein required of a bodybuilding diet will lead to kidney damage. This FAQ will answer this question and hopefully put all of your fears to rest.
Answer: Fact is that there are no studies that have ever shown a high protein diet causing kidney damage in persons with normal kidney function. Only people who already have a pre-existing kidney condition need to be concerned with keeping their protein in check.
In a study(1) that was performed this year designed to study the effects of a high protein diet in young men, the blood markers for kidney function of 77 men who participated in an average of 6 hours of weight training per week (average age of 26), and ate a diet consisting of 19% protein were analyzed. Their protein intake came out to be about 0.76 grams of protein per pound bodyweight, which is very close to the 1 gram per pound minimum that is typically recommended for bodybuilders. Primary blood tests for kidney function were ran in which blood urea nitrogen, uric acid and creatinine levels were monitored. The measurements showed that all of these items were within normal parameters in all participating men. Therefore, one can conclude that a high protein diet does not apply stress on healthy kidneys.
It must be mentioned that kidney function naturally declines with age due to the gradual loss of nephrons which are the kidney's filtering units. This loss can be caused by ailments like heart disease since in this case the blood flow to the kidneys is reduced. Also untreated high blood pressure can lead to kidney damage as well as long term use of prescription and non prescription pain relievers such as aspirin.
I always caution bodybuilders that in order to keep their kidneys healthy some aerobic exercise needs to be performed on a weekly basis as this will help keep the blood pressure in check and the heart healthy. I also recommend to drink plenty of water as this fluid is of utmost importance for protein processing and cleansing of waste product produced by protein metabolism. Also, eating vegetables as well helps with protein digestion. Finally, more is not always better. I have experimented with different protein intakes and find that 1-1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight is just about right.
(1) LaBounty, P, et al. (2005). Blood markers of kidney function and dietary protein intake of resistance trained males. J Int Soc Sports Nutr.2:5.
If stomach bloating is ocurring(re-occuring) after drinking plenty of water then I would investigate this further. Ensure that you are drinking enough water and not (caffeinated drinks). Some tea/coffee is fine but you have to drink plenty of water every day.
Yea i've already been looking at IBS which i thought was a possibility, but i'll check out those others you mentioned. I also think it's stupid that the doc straight concluded to the high protein intake cause!
Originally Posted by Chillen
I have a feeling nut's could be a big part as the cause but i'm not too sure yet. Also i drink between 1L-1.5L of milk daily!
Cheers for that BB, interesting.
Originally Posted by blackbeard
I drink at LEAST 5 pints of water a day (2.5L) and only have 1 coffee & 1 tea daily, and NEVER have soda etc.
i think you are just finally realizing your full of hot air! we've all known it for a long time!
but- i have grown to like ya abit so i hope you feel 100% very soon.
do you eat fresh ground flax seed daily?
I think some people have problems digesting nuts.. that could be it.
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