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  how much is too much protein, is there such a thing? Post #16 (permalink)  
Old Nov. 15/07, 03:50 PM
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If one is in DEFICIT of calories from their personal MT Line, and ALL those calories are from Protein-(hypothetically speaking), BELIEVE ME.......you gonna lose weight.......EVEN IF.....you consume to much protien over what you body needs.......BOTTOM LINE.

Lets say 1500c all from protein sources, and the MT line is 2000. Result in terms of putting things equal on a HEALTHY person: WEIGHT LOSS.

Its nearly impossible to stay exactly at the MT LINE; however, lets say the person did.

One is saying if I theoretically eat at the MT line and consume too much protein, and will eventually, given enough time, get fat. This is HAWG WASH.


------>Laws of energy balance cannot be beat<---------------------




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This is a hypothetical situation, I dont recommend over consuming protein, as IT CAN provide adverse HEALTH effects; however, this DOES NOT mute my point on the POWER of the ALMIGHTY CALORIE.

AT the MT LINE, (hypothetically speaking) all energy needs are met, and if protein (and the comounds that get together to make it) are over consumed it will be converted to a source of fuel, and therefore, there is none left over to store, lol.

If one is in a surplus on the energy equation, then I would tend to agree.

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  how much is too much protein, is there such a thing? Post #17 (permalink)  
Old Nov. 15/07, 03:59 PM
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I don't see how this is correct. if you are under your maintenance calories, but over your protein limit the extra protein does not get converted to fat, but gets converted to energy for your body to function. If he was over his calorie limit, then yes, but under, no.
Yeah some of it will be used for energy. The energy being utilised because of the defecit will be comeing from fat and amino acids from muscle.

You cant store amino acids right, so the excess from the meal will be excreeted, used as energy, and converted to fat (which will then be used for energy).

And if someone did do what chillen describes above, not only would there be adverse short term effects but fatal long term effects too.
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Yeah some of it will be used for energy. The energy being utilised because of the defecit will be comeing from fat and amino acids from muscle.

You cant store amino acids right, so the excess from the meal will be excreeted, used as energy, and converted to fat (which will then be used for energy).

And if someone did do what chillen describes above, not only would there be adverse short term effects but fatal long term effects too.
If you aren't that low below your maintenance, I don't understand why amino acids would begin to be used as energy, they are only converted to energy when the body is in starvation mode no? I'm thinking that the body would something similiar to a keto diet, where instead of burning fat for energy, it burns all the protein.

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Yeah thats right amino acids are primarlarly used in exceptional circumstance, considering there not suppose to be used for energy and play many vital roles in the normal functioning of our body. for that reason itself, i think in regard to your last sentence if i intepret right, doesnt exist.
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Yeah thats right amino acids are primarlarly used in exceptional circumstance, considering there not suppose to be used for energy and play many vital roles in the normal functioning of our body. for that reason itself, i think in regard to your last sentence if i intepret right, doesnt exist.
Really, why not? Protein is a nutrient that can be converted into energy just as fat and carbs, why wouldn't the body convert it all and run off it?
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protein isnt used as energy but amino acids.

Firstly it takes much longer to get the same enrgy from amino acids. Carbs are ideal and then theres fat that is used aerobically or in time of starvation.

Amino acids arnt stored for energy, they are the building blocks of thousands of important things like heamoglobin, hormones, muscle protein, enzymes etc. So as you can see the body used amino acids as a last resort because of its normal function as other things and the enrgy from it is slow.
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