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    realworksuks is offline Epic Adventurer
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    how much is too much protein, is there such a thing?

    Is there anything wrong with consuming massive amounts of protein? Anything unhealthy or bad about doing that?

    Today I had 281 grams and i'm 150 pounds for example...

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    matt182 is offline Needs to Deload
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    Well depends if you mind that most of it turning into fat, excreeted in the urine, putting excess load on your kidneys, water loss.

    281 are you kidding, how can you possibly or want to consume that much, rediculous i say!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt182 View Post
    rediculous i say!
    LMAO, you sounded like such an old English gentleman saying that

    OP - You'll get loads of different answers, the science geeks will say there's no use in more than 0.8g per lb of body weight, others, like me, will say 1-1.5g per lb. But either way you're probably having a little too much at the moment, you could drop down to 150g and not be missing out on anything
    Last edited by Typhon; Oct. 26/07 at 04:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realworksuks View Post
    Is there anything wrong with consuming massive amounts of protein? Anything unhealthy or bad about doing that?

    Today I had 281 grams and i'm 150 pounds for example...
    I agree with the others.

    If you consume protein in excess of what your body needs for normal daily maintenance caloric and normal protein needs, the extra protein gets converted and stored as fat. At your weight, 150 grams is more than enough.

    btw - where did you get the idea you need so much protein anyway ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCR View Post
    LMAO, you sounded like such an old English gentleman saying that

    OP - You'll get loads of different answers, the science geeks will say there's no use in more than 0.8g per lb of body weight, others, like me, will say 1-1.5g per lb. But either way you're probably having a little too much at the moment, you could drop down to 150g and not be missing out on anything
    lol i bet your loving it considering your from england. Gotta respect Drhouse best actor who comes from your country, best show!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt182 View Post
    lol i bet your loving it considering your from england. Gotta respect Drhouse best actor who comes from your country, best show!!
    you've obviously never seen Emmerdale

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    realworksuks is offline Epic Adventurer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrangell View Post
    I agree with the others.

    If you consume protein in excess of what your body needs for normal daily maintenance caloric and normal protein needs, the extra protein gets converted and stored as fat. At your weight, 150 grams is more than enough.

    btw - where did you get the idea you need so much protein anyway ?
    Wouldn't any calories you eat over your maintance get converted to fat regardless of if it's protein, carbs, or fats?

    I am talking about if you stay within your maintance calories... is there too much protein then?

    the 281 that I had the other day wasn't normal for me, I usually get 150-180 or so.
    Last edited by realworksuks; Oct. 27/07 at 12:11 PM.

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    yes...

    even if you stay within your overall maintanance calaries, to omuch protein will ultimately be fat. Because the body cant store nor want to so its eliminated..

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    realworksuks is offline Epic Adventurer
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt182 View Post
    yes...

    even if you stay within your overall maintanance calaries, to omuch protein will ultimately be fat. Because the body cant store nor want to so its eliminated..
    rrrrreally? well that's interesting..

    Well how much is too much then? I guess while we're talking about it, how much is too much fat and carbs as well?

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    You put excess load on your kidney. Your body doesn't store protein, so it flushes unused AA. You might store extra fat, also.

    I don't play around with excessive protein and excessive kidney usage. Now, I'm not about to say that it's true, but I don't want to gamble on it and then later on down in life have some kind of problem with my kidney. You only got two, so you might as well play it safe than sorry.

    Just consume about .8g to 1g of protein per pound of body weight, and I think you'll be fine.

    EDIT: LOL, I put liver instead of kidney for some reason. Sorry.
    Last edited by Dallen; Oct. 27/07 at 07:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realworksuks View Post
    Wouldn't any calories you eat over your maintance get converted to fat regardless of if it's protein, carbs, or fats?
    Yup.

    As a general rule, any calories ' in excess ' of what your body needs will get stored as fat - doesn't matter if the excess comes from protein, carbs, or fats

    Quote Originally Posted by realworksuks View Post
    I am talking about if you stay within your maintance calories... is there too much protein then?
    To add muscle, there is no evidence to show that you need any more than .8 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight - so taking in 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight is enough ( and likely more than you need ).

    Besides, weight training and hard cardio primarily use carb based energy - so, you want the majority of your calories to come from carbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realworksuks View Post
    rrrrreally? well that's interesting..

    Well how much is too much then? I guess while we're talking about it, how much is too much fat and carbs as well?
    One possible approach......


    1. Figure out your ' daily maintenance calories ' ( depending on your goals ).
    2. Figure out what the calorie equivalent of approx. 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight is.
    3. Target your fat intake to 25% - 30% of your ' daily maintenance calories '
    4. Subtract the fat and protein calories calculated above from your ' daily maintenance calories ' and you're left with a ballpark estimate of the carb calories you need.


    ....keeping in mind, that these are just estimates only and and you're just an average gym rat, so don't get too caught up in all the detail by expecting exact BMR calcs, exact activity level cals, re-adjusting calories day to day by following zig zag diets etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realworksuks View Post
    Is there anything wrong with consuming massive amounts of protein? Anything unhealthy or bad about doing that?

    Today I had 281 grams and i'm 150 pounds for example...
    We all need protein regardless whether we train or not; however, 281 grams for 150 lb person is, in my opinion, far too much. Your body will be better served with proper nutrient ratios.

    I suggest as well to reduce it to at minimum of .8 per lb of body weight, and add in some complex carbs.

    So, with the information provided by the members, what are your plans?

    Remember, its actually the proper circumference of nutrients that support muscle growth, and not only protien.

    Best wishes to you!



    Chillen

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    Here is a pretty good article (and more) explaining protein, protein requirements as well as good sources of high protein foods. Maybe this will help explain and answer some of your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt182 View Post
    yes...

    even if you stay within your overall maintanance calaries, to omuch protein will ultimately be fat. Because the body cant store nor want to so its eliminated..
    I don't see how this is correct. if you are under your maintenance calories, but over your protein limit the extra protein does not get converted to fat, but gets converted to energy for your body to function. If he was over his calorie limit, then yes, but under, no.

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