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  Minimizing damage from alcohol Post #1 (permalink)  
Old Jun. 17/07, 07:46 PM
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Minimizing damage from alcohol

I'm going to be realistic: I usually don't drink during the summer, but this time 'round I'm living with my friends instead of being in the suburbs and there's a substantial amount of drinking every weekend.

I tend to jog about 25k a week and work out most days, but I'm still noticing that, for example, the definition in my abs is kinda sorta disappearing, and after a night of drinking my muscles tend not to be in that good shape, realistically.

What I'd like to know is how would one minimize the damage of alcohol, at least in terms of fat gain, the next day?
This Friday and Saturday I drank a reasonable amount, and the days afterwards I basically didn't have more than about 1000-1500 calories worth of food, whereas my average diet is about 2500 calories (I'm about 81kilos, 182cm, probably around 13-14% body fat or less... I think my scale is lying to me when it says 10% though)

Anyway, any ideas? Advice?
I'm not going to stop the drinking, as it's just part of my lifestyle this summer, but yeah... I'd like to be able to control its effects a bit more.
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Old Jun. 17/07, 11:41 PM
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i used to have a similiar problem. My diet and workouts would be golden all week, then friday id get hammered , eat everything in site. Saturday, hungover, couldnt eat much, and the workouts really suffered due to nutrition,(or lack there of) .

I find it very hard to keep abs while drinking. Even one day a week was bad . Due to the negative effects it has on u , the next day or two.

Obviously, quit drinking would be the easy choice. But we all know that aint gonna happen

So , just gotta compensate for those calories. If ur gonna drink 10 beers, u gotta have 1000 calories free on ur diet. And the big thing is, ( not sure if u have this problem) but the splurging on every bad food in sight. Thats where the trubble comes into play. Make sure u keep a lil discipline, during a night of drinking.

I like to try to drink as many glasses of water, as i did beers, right before i pass out. Helps with the hangover the next morning, and u should be able to get some food down, and save ur diet for that day.

As for as the muscle fatigue, I still,(im sure others too) feel weaker during the workout. Not sure if its a mental thing, or what.

Just gotta keep ur drinking disciplined, No ur limits and all that good stuff.

I hope something in that babbling i just did , helped a bit..>> Good luck dOOd
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Old Jun. 18/07, 04:00 AM
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Yeah, I never do the fast food thing. Eating while I'm drinking is rarely a problem, especially now that I don't go to bars as much, and mostly do the house party thing.
Just yeah, for the free calories, should that be the day of drinking, or the day after?
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Old Jun. 18/07, 03:22 PM
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i try to have a weekly calorie goal, if it were me, i dont think it really would matter which day u opened up some free calories. As long as at the end of the week ur around ur target goal of calories. And ofcourse, freeing up those calories really doesnt give the okay to go out boozing all the time, drinking is still just empty calories and slows down ur metabolism, and all those other dandy negative effects that come with it.

But i do think that freeing up the calories will help keep ur diet decently stable,

this article, has pretty much the same things i said in it, with a few other things too,

.M. Hirsch
Associated Press
Dec. 15, 2004 01:05 PM

You know drinking and driving is bad, but what about drinking and dieting?

That all depends on your sense of moderation. A drink now and then probably won't leave you with a holiday belly, but knocking back too many six-packs can do a number on your six-pack abs.

Before you imbibe, even moderately, consider this: During this season of indulgence, you already eat more than normal. Washing down those treats with beer or bubbly ups an already high calorie count, sometimes significantly. advertisement




The good news is that the same advice that keeps you safe on the road also can make it safer to step on the scale.

Federal dietary guidelines limit alcohol to one serving a day for women, two for men. But it's easy to overdo it.

A 12-ounce serving (a standard bottle) of beer has about 150 calories. Light beers and 1½-ounce shots of hard alcohol have about 100 calories. A 3½-ounce glass of wine has about 75 calories. A 12-ounce wine cooler has 180 calories, and 1½ ounces of most liqueurs have 160 or more.

But drinking just a serving or two can be difficult. Wine often is served in 6-ounce or larger glasses. And if you prefer your beer on tap, realize that a pint of brew holds 16 ounces.

Complicating the issue is a tendency by people to treat beverage calories differently than those from food, thinking somehow that the glass of cabernet sauvignon doesn't count as much as the pasta with carbonara.

But calories are calories, and when too many are consumed the body turns them into fat, regardless of the source, says Yale University obesity researcher Kelly Brownell.

Studies also suggest that people who consume too many calories from beverages are less likely to compensate by cutting back elsewhere in their diet than those who overeat food.

Drinking also sabotages diets through the munch factor, says Elisabetta Politi, nutrition manager at Duke University's Diet and Fitness Center. Alcohol lowers inhibitions, which makes the cheese platter and mixed nuts that much more attractive.

To ensure that bellying up to the bar remains only a figure of speech, stick to some basic guidelines.

Politi says the simpler the drink the better. Wines, beer and spirits are best. Mixed drinks, such as a margarita or punch, can have 500 calories per serving, or roughly a third of the total calories a woman should consume in a day.

If you're watching your carbs, fermentation and distillation make hard alcohol, such as vodka, rum, gin and whiskey, a great choice. These drinks have little or no sugar, and that means no carbohydrates.

If wine is more your style, don't fret the carbs too much. White wines average about 1 gram of carbohydrates per serving, reds about 2 grams. Sweet dessert wines pack 12 grams.

As for beer, light varieties have about 5 grams of carbohydrates, while low-carb beers can have as few as 3 grams. Regular beers have about 13 grams.

Whatever you drink, don't do it on an empty stomach. Alcohol is absorbed faster when there is no food in your system. While a fast buzz might be fun, it also lowers your inhibitions, making you more likely to overeat and overdrink.

Once you start drinking, alternate between water - or go wild with seltzer and a splash of juice - and alcohol. This not only cuts your calories for the evening, it also helps ward off a hangover by keeping you hydrated.

Also consider lighter versions of your favorites. Low- and no-fat eggnog is an easy substitute that can chop hundreds of calories. Switching to diet in your rum and Coke can cut the calories in half.

Cutting alcoholic beverages with water or ice also helps. Inexpensive wine becomes a spritzer when spruced up with seltzer water.

And if you're drinking at a restaurant, resist the urge to buy a bottle of wine. Though it's more expensive to buy by the glass, you probably will drink less and there is no pressure to finish the bottle.

Ultimately, the focus should be on pleasure, says Brownell. Pick a drink you enjoy, have just one and drink it slowly.

"Make your calories count. Whether eating food or drinking alcohol, make sure that the calories are really enjoyable," he said. "If you're drinking rapidly, the pleasure of the alcohol will go down because you're not savoring what you drink."

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Old Jun. 18/07, 07:21 PM
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That's a lot of good advice, I think. Especially thinking of calories on a weekly, instead of daily basis.
Still, I'm curious about something I read earlier, which stated that the alcohol stays about in your blood the day after, and is consumed as calories the next day.
Further, is there any way to calculate the kinda hit that your normal metabolism would take after that much alcohol?
My average for a big night (which seems to be every weekend lately... Especially with no school) is around 7 beers, and my drink of choice is a Canadian beer, James Ready 5.5 (Though I always start with something like a cider, or Innis and Gunn, or something really tasty. Sapporo maybe, that kinda stuff)
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Old Jun. 19/07, 12:54 AM
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i think it depends on the person, what kind of metabolic effects it will have on the body. Im not sure about the answer to ur question about the alcohol staying in ur system the next day and the caloric consumption>

as far as ur drinkin, 7 beers a week ruffly? that aint bad at all , i would barely worry about it. Just keep around 1000 empty calories , to compensate, and u should be fine.

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Old Jun. 19/07, 05:40 AM
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Great topic as I think this is on a lot of people's minds given the summer time. I know it's something I think about on a weekly basis (more than once)

You can also try drinking a mix of Vodka & Club. I recently read that the fermentation process for drinks like vodka, gin, whiskey cause it to have virtually no sugar or carbs and only 100 calories per 3.5 oz shot. Mix this with club soda (as noted before) or a diet soda and a lime or lemon wedge which doesn't really add anything. Tonic water tends to have about as much calories as a soda (lots of sugar).

If I can find the article where I read this, I will post it up here for reference.
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Old Jun. 19/07, 07:32 AM
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I was reading an article in Men's Health, and they had a section on this. It recommend light beer instead of the regular. The lowest cal was like 100 something, but I forgot the name of the beer. Try finding the article around and I think you can enjoy your night out and not feel bad about the amount you drink.
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Old Jun. 19/07, 07:19 PM
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best beer to drink nutritional wise is Miller Lite and Micholob ultra
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Old Jun. 20/07, 01:20 AM
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maybe find a spirit you enjoy and stick to that. maybe say southern on the rocks or something, and because its stronger than beer, you can drink it slowly, therefore drinking less by nights end. unless of course you're just drinking to get plastered, cause that would need to change. drink to enjoy=] or drink and have a healthy meal aswell, balance..
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Old Jun. 21/07, 05:02 PM
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I hate spirits though, and lite beers are generally pretty gross.
Ah well, I'll just stick with James Ready 5.5 for now, and just drink in moderation.
Gotta get some more cardio going though.
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Old Jun. 21/07, 05:08 PM
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I was reading an article in Men's Health, and they had a section on this. It recommend light beer instead of the regular. The lowest cal was like 100 something, but I forgot the name of the beer. Try finding the article around and I think you can enjoy your night out and not feel bad about the amount you drink.
Yeah, but if you're not going to drink real beer then what's the point?
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Old Jun. 21/07, 05:08 PM
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Sup Andrew, Its Dane from the pcperforums a while back. Your into body building now?
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Old Jun. 22/07, 06:51 AM
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best beer to drink nutritional wise is Miller Lite and Micholob ultra
Amstel Light is a tastier option in my opinion... couple more carbs though.

Amstel Light is: 95 calories, 5 carbs, 3.5% alcohol.
Miller Light is: 96 calories, 3 carbs, 4.5% alcohol
Michelob Ultra is: 95 calories, 3 carbs, 4.2% alcohol
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Old Jun. 22/07, 01:39 PM
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i like miller lite
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