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    ~LV~ is offline Macronutrient Manipulator
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    OoohRah!

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    NHE and Scirion the same thing?

    So, Like apparently many many others I have found NHE. I found them through craigslist awhile back. They were offering free certs at the time, I think they said to evaluate their exam process or something like that. I signed up for the cert, was supposed to receive an email when it was time for the exam, but never received it. I emailed them about it but never heard back.

    Then I went on the site to see what was going on. I then saw they were hiring. Among other positions they were hiring exam processors. Again you cant test for free, and like before there is an optional study guide.

    What the heck, I signed up as a processor and got an email saying that I would have to pass the exam to be hired. You have to pass an exam at or above the level of whatever you are grading.

    So, we'll see...

    But in the mean time Ive been trying to find info about them, and these are the bread crumbs I have found. IF you go to www-starting-a-personal-training-business dot com you will see references to a company called Scirion in the discussion about NHE.

    So then I looked up Scirion.

    Scirion, like NHE is quite elusive...??? Hmmm...

    So I find this thread about NHE and see L7's comments about there being posts from the same IP address...

    Well, guess what?!?! On this same forum the SAME PEOPLE are posting and saying positive things about SCIRION, just like they are for NHE.

    Not trying to be a trouble maker, but Im willing to bet the 2 of the 3 people are

    1) oliverb
    2) Diane Lambert

    Dunno...

    Would love for it to be legit...but me thinks not.

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    Who cares??

    I saw the NHE ad on Careerbuilder.com and had never heard of them before so I figured Iíd do some research. I basically asked the trainers at my gym and a couple of them had never heard of them but about five others had. The ones that had heard of them said that they are relatively new and that they have ďcollege-typeĒ programs. One trainer actually was certified by them and said it was one of the better programs he ever had, which weighed in a lot because he has over 20 years experience in the field. After further consideration about NHE, I called and talked to a couple of people at NHE. One lady, (I think her name was Kathy, never returned my call, but I talked to Chris and Heather and they were very helpful. I talked to Heather for about 30 minutes and after talking to her there is no doubt in my mind that they are legitimate. I guess there will be a lot of doubters out there and people trying to bring them down, but I think it is probably a bunch of jealousy out there because people just feel more comfortable with ACE or NASM. Change is not always welcomed and new comers always get it the worst.

    I try to take what I read online with a grain of salt, whether its good or bad because everyone has their own motivation, especially from a site like starting a personal training business.com. That site is very sketchy and the people who post there are not even members. They are all ďanonymousĒ posters. (Real reliable) I am very cautious about any negative posts because to me, if you donít believe in someone or a particular company, why would you waste your time registering as a member on some site, and writing about an experience you never had? That doesnít make a lot of sense to me. If you have actual experience that could prove helpful to someone, thatís one thing, but to ramble on about something you know nothing about is not really beneficial or even worse, express you skepticism to people who donít even know you. Thatís just weird but I guess thatís just me.

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    I agree. Your concern is a bit bewildering. From what I understand, the exam is supposed to be free for employees. Thatís true for any company-training program. They are always free. All you have to do is sign up, take the exam and wait for the results. Whatís the big deal? Either you know your stuff or you do not. If youíre stressed that you may need a study guide, then maybe you shouldnít be pretending you are ready for the job. Let someone else, who doesnít need to study, get the job. You are basically wasting everyoneís time if you donít currently possess the expertise level and feel you need to study for an exam you should already be able to pass. I read their job posting and it didnít say, ďno experience necessary, we will train you.Ē

    In any case, stop stressing about it. Iím sure they are not begging for your help. I donít think they really care whether or not you want the job. Youíre spending way too much energy on something that doesnít seem as though you are qualified for.

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    Stupid people suck. If you are stupid, you should not be surprised when you fail a really hard exam. I have stupid people working with me and all they do is bitch and complain about how they are always getting the short end of the stick. How everything that doesn't go there way must be some sort of scam or conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverb View Post
    By the way, I certainly didn't do a tour in Iraq, trying to spread freedom and democracy, only to come home and get treated like a communist. You have a lot of balls looking into my "private" account. Unless a post is obvious spam or flamming, what gives you the right to peek into your members accounts?
    You got a srew loose dude. You fought for the oil companies and for other war profiteers, like Haliburton. This is about fitness, not your politics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin-t View Post
    You got a srew loose dude. You fought for the oil companies and for other war profiteers, like Haliburton. This is about fitness, not your politics!
    My politics? Are you sure you want to call the over 100,000 soldiers who fought in Iraq a bunch of fools? If you do... we are ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin-t View Post
    You got a srew loose dude. You fought for the oil companies and for other war profiteers, like Haliburton. This is about fitness, not your politics!
    Like I said, Oliver, stupid people suck. I just wish our heroes didn't have to die for them.

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    I'm not sure you even need a study guide to pass the ACE exam, I know someone who sells the exam answers.

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    NHE-Scirion Institute

    NHE is the Scirion institute. i took and passed the master trainer test. the company address is the same as Scirion . even their fax number is the same. Scirion has been reported to the Better Business Bureau. they just just changed their name. beware of this company.

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    I think NHE bought Scirion out. They also acquired a part of NPTI and some other certification companies that are headquartered in the same area. NHE comes from the medical side of the health industry and so buying out some of the competition was probably a good way to get a leg up on the fitness side. There is nothing unusual about that. Microsoft is doing the same thing with Yahoo.

    Most certification companies are located in southern California. Rumor has it they are working on merging with Gold’s Gym. If they do, they will compete very well with NASM, who has merged with 24 hour Fitness.

    As far as your warning to “beware”, I don’t get it? Why did you join this site just to tell us you paid for the program and passed? From what I hear, passing their exam is extremely difficult. Did you cheat?

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    Itís called an acquisition. The best way to beat your competition is to buy them.

    These single posters are spammers and are usually competitors of some sort. Hereís how it works: You search the competitor on Google and you find postings about them and then you write something negative about them. Usually, the post doesnít make any sense and seems obscure, way off subject. Theyíre easy to spot because they always brag about being in the fitness industry for years and years or they have tons of experience, however their posting is the first on any fitness board? People who really care about fitness and have experience or knowledge to share always join a fitness board because itís the only place to learn and share. These one-timers are a joke. Where has their expertise been all this time? Surely they would have something beneficial to share with us about the fitness industry, with their extensive understanding of the inner most workings. But they donít. They wait until they have something to complain about before they join? Itís called flaming and is always easy to spot. I always ignore what they have to say because their phonies.

    Sorry for venting Oliver, but I hate spammers. See you around!

    Semper Fi

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