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  Exxon Sucks !! Post #1 (permalink)  
Old Apr. 01/08, 06:02 PM
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Exxon Sucks !!

THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.
This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive.
It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this please.
Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy gas on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May! It's worth your consideration.
Join the resistance!!!!
I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00
a gallon by next summer, and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down?
We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to 'hurt' ourselves by refusing to buy gas.
It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work.
Please read on and join with us!
By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.19 for regular unleaded in my town.
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take
action.
The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a
price war.
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. And under no circumstances buy from CITGO. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!
If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
That's all!
(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am . so trust me on this one.
how long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days !!!
Acting together we can make a difference.
If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL/CITGO UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
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Old Apr. 01/08, 06:11 PM
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300 mill...that's... OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr. 01/08, 06:33 PM
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I only buy from Valero.
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Old Apr. 01/08, 07:16 PM
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I appreciate the enthusiam and sentiment, but this post severely lacks a fundamental understanding of basic economics.

If so many people stop buying from those companies, do you know what will happen? The OTHER companies that sell gasoline will jack up their prices well above $4, because there will be an overwhelming demand for gas that comes from these stations.

Gasoline is one of the most competitively priced commodities in the States. The regional differences you see are nearly all a product of differences in local and state taxes or legislation limiting the extent to which stations can change prices (meant to prevent tacit collusion through price signaling).

Assuming that we aren't finding any new sources for oil, the only way to reduce the cost of gas is to reduce the demand for it across the board.
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Old Apr. 01/08, 07:31 PM
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Sig is 100% right, except he left out one tidbit: ExxonMobil would go out of business if the boycott persisted. That would leave one major competitor out of the picture and create less competition.

If you have a problem with ExxonMobil and want to boycott their products, that is your prerogative. Just don't think it will help bring down the price of gas.
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Old Apr. 02/08, 06:02 AM
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Oil isn't simply limited to gasoline in your car. Anyone sense the irony when you see someone protesting oil companies with a wooden sign, paper poster, plastic bags, plastic watch, a bus ride ticket, and using electricity?

I feel the oil companies are related to one another, even though they're different companies. Whenever there is a common resource needed, the company execs usually ban together to ensure that prices remain constant. It isn't free enterprise, and usually if a company does decide to sell for bottom prices, they'll be railroaded. A price reduction of .01 ~ .25 are usually okay, but if another company was doing it for a reduction of 1.00 ~ 2.00, you can be sure the company will be out of business one way or another.

The fact remains that you better stock up now on many things. If the gas prices hit 10dollars a gallon, it's going to be mass chaos. Oil is the very fabric of our world, and not having it could put us back to the stone ages. I recommend stocking up on canned goods, water, MREs, seeds for fruits and veggies, good barricade tools for the doors and windows, radio (AM & FM), 2-way radio, flashlights, matches, candles, stove, multi-tool pocket knife, basic first aid kit, and a good weapon (preferably a rifle with around 100 rounds of ammunition or 25~50 rounds per adult members of the household). This supply should last you and your family for a good 4~6 months. When supply runs low, do not try to locate a large group, and do not travel by main roads. Plan an escape and re-supply point. Do not try to "help" strangers, and do not let anyone you don't know in the house even if they are hurt. If you notice large mobs, remain quiet and prepare to defend yourself. If the crisis lasts for more than 4-6 months, then prepare to move to a new location with large supply. If after 4-6 months the crisis is over, prepare to rebuild and restore your life.

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Old Apr. 02/08, 06:06 AM
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Old Apr. 02/08, 06:15 AM
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We need to be on the cutting edge of alternative fuel. Look at what Brazil has done. My question is why can't the most technologically advanced country in the world be the leader in alternative fuel. The answer politics.

Oil companies run our country. So really there is nothing we can do about the current situation. We are at the mercy of the oil companies.

I'm with Dallen. I own land, I can hunt, fish and have enough guns and ammo to get me up there and last me long enough to survive a long period of time. I won't be defending my house in the city. I'll be headed for the hills just like I did when we had that massive blackout a few years ago. If that choas is the harbinger of things to come I don't want any part of it.
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Old Apr. 02/08, 06:20 AM
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I don't know about the US but over here Petrol is cheaper than bottled water so it's not actually that expensive, it's just that we've been really spoilt in the past
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Old Apr. 02/08, 06:22 AM
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I had an email about this sort of thing about 2 years ago. Old news.

Will never happen.
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Old Apr. 02/08, 06:36 AM
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I'm guessing this idea is based on the belief that Exxon gas comes directly from Exxon refineries, Valero from Valero, etc. Well, that's not exactly true.

The gas you buy at Exxon may have actually been refined at a Shell refinery, and so on. It doesn't leave the refinery in an Exxon truck and get sent to the gas stations.

This also doesn't account for all the other things that the oil refineries make other than gas.
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Old Apr. 02/08, 07:21 AM
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Sig’s points are right on.

There is an inherent contradiction in this plan. On the one hand, no one buys gas from EM because (we’re assuming that) virtually everyone has bought into this idea. So, EM’s market share drops to pretty much zero and is no longer a player in the market. On the other hand, because EM responds to their lack of sales by cutting prices, other companies are supposed to cut their prices too. But why? Companies drop prices in response to price competition from competitors. But what competition is EM giving its competitors if it is being perfectly boycotted? Why should an EM competitor lower their prices to keep its customers from going to buy cheaper gas at EM if the customers have already sworn to boycott EM? I don’t know how good an engineer this guy was who supposedly came up with this idea, but I think every econ professor in the country would give this wannabe economist an F.

And why should people single out EM? People are not going to boycott one company arbitrarily chosen for punishment. What makes EM a more appropriate target for boycott than its competitors? If that can’t be explained to people, they aren’t going to join in. Even if a couple million Americans thought EM should be boycotted, every one is going to drive on in to the EM station when they see gas that is one cent cheaper.

I can understand why people are angered by high gas prices, but people have this unreasonable expectation that everything they want in life should be cheap, regardless of supply and demand. But worldwide demand for petroleum has shot way up, much faster than supply. I sometimes get criticized for defending oil companies, but who’s the bigger friend of oil companies? Me, the guy who takes the bus to work, who drives a small car, and who seldom goes on road trips? Or, the oil company hater who drives a gas guzzler to work, who has a ski boat up at the cabin on the lake, and who drives their car between the city and their cabin every weekend of the summer? There’s a way to stick it to the oil companies---drive fewer miles, drive a more fuel efficient car, use less electricity at home.
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Old Apr. 02/08, 09:29 PM
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Um. This entire concept is stupid. Subdude, Sig, thanks for saving everyone else the trouble of explaining why, beyond the fact that it's impossible to get 300 million people to do ANYTHING.
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