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    Question NCSF vs ACE

    hello

    i am new here. nice forum!

    i've been doing some researches about becoming a CPT and i am still deciding what certification may fit my needs.

    so, here are my questions: NCSF or ACE? and how good is NCSF? is it that famous? internationally recognized?

    Other certified ones that are better then the 2 mentioned above? please don't tell me ISSA because it's not certified, therefore why getting it!?

    thanks

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    My first choice is NSCA and my second choice would be ACSM. In fact, those would be my only two choices. And honestly, the ISSA might not be "nationally" certified, the level of knowledge you have to know to pass their CPT test is much higher than ACE or NCSF.

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    Don't waste your time on ACE... Go for NSCA or NASM...

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    thank you guys for your fast reply

    ACE might be good. i dont like the fact that they offer their test in few locations and that it's offered 3 times a yr only. c'mon, i was looking at their schedule and where i live (phx) i either take it in 2 months or i'll have to wait until may. next is in 2007.

    ACSM is not approved by the NCCA. same for ACE for scheduling a test.

    NCSF looks the one. it's NCCA approved, so nationally recognized. it's not that expensive. you can take the test anytime almost anywhere in the states at your own convenince.

    my real question is this: what do people think about the NCSF? poor-average-good-very good-excellent? and also, how would you compare it to others?

    thanks again
    filippo

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    hey DeX

    why choosing NASM if it's not NCCA approved?

    i believe you either get certified from a nationally approved organization or don't get certified at all. don't you agree?

    it's like doing home-schooling with my mom. she might be the best teacher ever and i might learn more than i would in college, but it's not recognized anywhere. so what's the point? in the real world they all want proofs - black on white, and it better be good

    or i am probably missing something. like the real purpose of getting certified. why do we even get certified? is it just a legal matter beside the knowledge?

    what do you think?

    thank you,
    filippo

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    The ACSM is the American College of Sports Medicine and is very nationally recognized. Again, my vote goes to the NSCA.

    Typically if you want to work as a personal trainer, you need to be certified for legal issues. That and you can typically charge more if you have a certification behind your name (depending on the organization).

    If you wanted to be really adventurous, get your CSCS from the NSCA and then get certified by the NATA (National athletic trainers association).http://www.nata.org/

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    hi evolution -

    i don't doubt that the ACSM is nationally recognized. as a metter of fact, i read a lot of articles talking really good about it.

    i guess what i am trying to find out is something else.

    for example, the ACSM is not NCCA approved, but it's nationally recognized, right? so how important is it for an organization to be NCCA approved if it's already nationally recognized?

    how valuable is for an organization to be NCCA approved?

    and why would you get certified from a non NCCA approved organization? so all it matters is that it's nationally recognized?

    last , what's so special about the NASM and the NSCA? reminder, the NSAM is not NCCA approved.

    hope i am not too confusing

    thanks,
    filippo

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    In the personal training industry it doesn't matter that a certification is certified by another certification... All they care about is if you're certified and you sell personal training and your clients see results... Almost all big fitness companies in my area always ask for NASM, NSCA, ACE, CSCS, etc...

    For the most part the only person that it matters to is you. The general public doesn't know that there are multiple certifications. I know quite a bit of trainers that are just ACE certified and they are very good at what they do. Each certification is different, there is no "right" one... Just think of them as "tools"/experience/etc...

    NASM is very big in 'function' so they do the musculoskeletal screening/movement screening/etc... that other certifications don't teach... They are very scientific, they look at synergistic dominance, self myofascial release, etc... I personally like this certification because it points out people's weak links...

    On the note of the NATA - that is not personal training... in order to get NATA certified you must go to an accredited college for 2-4 years and then take the test.

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    I'm with Dex, for most health clubs, they'll be pretty okay with most certifications. I like the NSCA and the ACSM because if you get certified by those guys, you're a shining star in the training field. Like I alluded to earlier, some certifying boards are more "prestigous," carry more weight than others, or are more recognized than others. But if you just want to work in your typical fitness facility, then choose what is most convenient for you.

    I have no idea what the NCCA is; I googled it but didn't come up with anything as far as fitness related. What you're looking for when it comes to recognition is national recognition.

    On a side note-I realize that NATA is not just a personal training certification, it's to become a liscensed athletic trainer which requires quite a few university classes but I also mentioned the CSCS which requires a bachelors degree in order to get certified...it was just food for thought.

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    DeX, you brought up a great point! that's exactly i thought, but no1 really mentioned it b4. it all makes sense. thank you

    last thing: what do you know about the NSFT?

    filippo

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    Never heard of the NSFT... Even when I googled it, nothing came up... so if you know the site, go ahead and post it please....

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    NCSF http://www.ncsf.org

    they are NCCA approved.

    when i look at the employement page at the 24horsfitness website the NCSF is listed as one of the approved certification.

    google doesn't tell you much. humm

    filippo

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    Oh.. the NCSF ya I've heard of them... you said
    last thing: what do you know about the NSFT?
    Umm.. the NCSF you don't see out in the industry alot... I've been doing this for over 4 years now and I haven't meet anyone that has it... They are just a certification like ACE certification... I don't know, it might be more of a regional type certification...

    As I said, it just depends at the 'level' you are at... and it doesn't hurt to have more than one anyways... I see a lot of people get like ACE and then drop it and get NSCA/NASM/CSCS/etc...

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