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  HIIT, Tabata sprints or 30mins jogging while cutting? Post #1 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 20/07, 02:51 PM
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HIIT, Tabata sprints or 30mins jogging while cutting?

Hi I have started cutting and while reading MANY articles I mostly came across:

"As you probably have seen, the best time to do cardio to burn fat is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. have your first three or four meals mostly coming from protein and carb sources (say breakfast, pre-workout, postworkout and lunch), along with your last two or three focusing around protein and fat (mid-afternoon snack, dinner, and possibly one evening meal). Cardio for 30mins at least 5 times a week".

Now, I was thinking, HIIT and Tabata sprints (which are very very effective) havn't been mentioned. And Ive read a lot about sprints being more efficient in keeping metabolism active, burns more calories etc.

Which is better when one is cutting? Jogging for 30mins daily or sprinting for 4-5 times a week? And is it true that its recommended to run on an empty stomach? Im not sure if I can handle long distance jogging without eating breakfast before..

I'd like to have opinions based on personal experiences please.
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Old Oct. 21/07, 11:00 AM
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I can't speak about running, but my experience in cycling is that sprints, intervals, HIIT, Tabata, etc. are ineffective until you have developed a base fitness. If you are there, the HIIT people swear that it is the fastest way to lose weight.
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Old Oct. 21/07, 01:52 PM
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Hi I have started cutting and while reading MANY articles I mostly came across:

"As you probably have seen, the best time to do cardio to burn fat is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. have your first three or four meals mostly coming from protein and carb sources (say breakfast, pre-workout, postworkout and lunch), along with your last two or three focusing around protein and fat (mid-afternoon snack, dinner, and possibly one evening meal). Cardio for 30mins at least 5 times a week".

Now, I was thinking, HIIT and Tabata sprints (which are very very effective) havn't been mentioned. And Ive read a lot about sprints being more efficient in keeping metabolism active, burns more calories etc.

Which is better when one is cutting? Jogging for 30mins daily or sprinting for 4-5 times a week? And is it true that its recommended to run on an empty stomach? Im not sure if I can handle long distance jogging without eating breakfast before..

I'd like to have opinions based on personal experiences please.
if your a soccer player and your serious about it you should not be doing tabata sprints. At least use HIIT because it is somewhat closer to the games actual intensity which will make you more effective playing soccer or any other sports. IMO your HIIT should be tailored to how and at what position you play the game.Trust me if your doing HIIT right you wont be able to handle it in the morning especially if you cant handle the jogging. I think reallly doing any of those things 5 times a week is excessive and i would stick to doing HIIT (tailored) whenever you feel you can or have the time what im trying to say is dont overwork yourself considering your probably training with your team too right now.

O and i saw your pictures and i really think you should add muscle before cutting because if you do (know from my own and my entire team practicallys experience) you will probably end up looking twiggy and muscularly unbalanced. Also mind you there isn't one guy on my team who doesnt have a bf% higher then 8 but only 2 or 3 actually have abs. so i would REALLLY consider a bulk good luck
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Old Oct. 21/07, 01:53 PM
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Hi I have started cutting and while reading MANY articles I mostly came across:

"As you probably have seen, the best time to do cardio to burn fat is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. have your first three or four meals mostly coming from protein and carb sources (say breakfast, pre-workout, postworkout and lunch), along with your last two or three focusing around protein and fat (mid-afternoon snack, dinner, and possibly one evening meal). Cardio for 30mins at least 5 times a week".

Now, I was thinking, HIIT and Tabata sprints (which are very very effective) havn't been mentioned. And Ive read a lot about sprints being more efficient in keeping metabolism active, burns more calories etc.

Which is better when one is cutting? Jogging for 30mins daily or sprinting for 4-5 times a week? And is it true that its recommended to run on an empty stomach? Im not sure if I can handle long distance jogging without eating breakfast before..

I'd like to have opinions based on personal experiences please.
if your a soccer player and your serious about it you should not be doing tabata sprints. At least use HIIT because it is somewhat closer to the games actual intensity which will make you more effective playing soccer or any other sports. IMO your HIIT should be tailored to how and at what position you play the game.Trust me if your doing HIIT right you wont be able to handle it in the morning especially if you cant handle the jogging. I think reallly doing any of those things 5 times a week is excessive and i would stick to doing HIIT (tailored) whenever you feel you can or have the time what im trying to say is dont overwork yourself considering your probably training with your team too right now.

O and i saw your pictures and i really think you should add muscle before cutting because if you do (know from my own and my entire team practicallys experience) you will probably end up looking twiggy and muscularly unbalanced. Also mind you there isn't one guy on my team who doesnt have a bf% higher then 8 but only 2 or 3 actually have abs. so i would REALLLY consider a bulk good luck
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Hi I have started cutting and while reading MANY articles I mostly came across:

"As you probably have seen, the best time to do cardio to burn fat is first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. have your first three or four meals mostly coming from protein and carb sources (say breakfast, pre-workout, postworkout and lunch), along with your last two or three focusing around protein and fat (mid-afternoon snack, dinner, and possibly one evening meal). Cardio for 30mins at least 5 times a week".

Now, I was thinking, HIIT and Tabata sprints (which are very very effective) havn't been mentioned. And Ive read a lot about sprints being more efficient in keeping metabolism active, burns more calories etc.

Which is better when one is cutting? Jogging for 30mins daily or sprinting for 4-5 times a week? And is it true that its recommended to run on an empty stomach? Im not sure if I can handle long distance jogging without eating breakfast before..

I'd like to have opinions based on personal experiences please.
if your a soccer player and your serious about it you should not be doing tabata sprints. At least use HIIT because it is somewhat closer to the games actual intensity which will make you more effective playing soccer or any other sports. IMO your HIIT should be tailored to how and at what position you play the game.Trust me if your doing HIIT right you wont be able to handle it in the morning especially if you cant handle the jogging. I think reallly doing any of those things 5 times a week is excessive and i would stick to doing HIIT (tailored) whenever you feel you can or have the time what im trying to say is dont overwork yourself considering your probably training with your team too right now.

O and i saw your pictures and i really think you should add muscle before cutting because if you do (know from my own and my entire team practicallys experience) you will probably end up looking twiggy and muscularly unbalanced. Also mind you there isn't one guy on my team who doesnt have a bf% higher then 8 but only 2 or 3 actually have abs. so i would REALLLY consider a bulk good luck
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Old Oct. 21/07, 02:31 PM
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Article explaining why it is bad to run on an empty stomach.
Training Articles from NYC personal trainers Cardio on empty stomach
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Old Oct. 21/07, 05:00 PM
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wow sorry about all those posts computer spazzed out on me
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Old Oct. 22/07, 11:24 AM
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i am oing to do cardio 2 times a week and HIIT for 2 times a week. (enough to cut?) lifeissoccer what should I do to my current diet (as showed above) to bulk instead of cut? The things I am eating are satisfying me quite good..

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Old Oct. 22/07, 05:50 PM
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i am oing to do cardio 2 times a week and HIIT for 2 times a week. (enough to cut?) lifeissoccer what should I do to my current diet (as showed above) to bulk instead of cut? The things I am eating are satisfying me quite good..
i would ask for help from a person like chillen for diet help
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Old Oct. 24/07, 08:05 AM
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ok. did so mate
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