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    fit4life1976 is offline Third Set
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    lol.....

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    tonymcclellan is offline Super Moderator
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    Its been said that most people dont know how to run properly. Therefore the risk of injury is higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymcclellan View Post
    Its been said that most people dont know how to run properly. Therefore the risk of injury is higher.
    thats wrong IMO,everyone has there own natural gait,and should run that way,look at paula radcliffe,micheal johnson,and many others,if you try to run a different way than your body intends IMO it can cause more harm than good.

    if you want to be good at football "play football" if you want to be good at running "run" building the muscles in your legs through lifting isnt goint to help you run safer,if anything you are going to add more muscle= more weight so can be more detrimental.

    injuries through running are mostly repetative/overuse injuries IE doing to much,if someone is overweight and wants to run they should restrict there cals and run,but take it slowly,doing 12 miles isnt good for anyone with less than twelve months running under there belt IMO.

    you dont go straight in the gym and lift massive weights,so why go and do massive distances,let your running muscles build themselves by running sensibly.

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    Running is like every other exercise, it needs proper technique to be performed safely. It would suprise a lot of people to know that I was once a skinny cross country runner and I can promise you that well over half the people I see running in the street or on the treadmill at the gym are on course for injuries due to their poor technique

    The biggest problem I see is 'bouncing', where people use too much energy in lifting up rather than forward. Not only is it inefficient but they also have problems with their calves and tendons before long.

    I'm with Tony, most people have no idea how to run safely and should be instructed in proper form as well as getting correct footwear for their running style before they even think about running futher than the end of their street

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    The biggest problem I see is 'bouncing', where people use too much energy in lifting up rather than forward. Not only is it inefficient but they also have problems with their calves and tendons before long.

    I'm with Tony, most people have no idea how to run safely and should be instructed in proper form as well as getting correct footwear for their running style before they even think about running futher than the end of their street
    This.

    Though, on another level, I agree with what buzz is saying. We were tiffling about this earlier in Karky's dc journal, and I really do believe that "ideal" form is not always ideal. Having said that, if you are too dumb to realize that excessive force is wasteful and gonna cause problems... well, once again, you really have no business messing with what you don't understand.

    What really disturbs me (and I mentioned this yesterday, I know) is going up to the Olympic track at the uni and watching all the "semi-professionals" with horrid form and knee braces. I mean the street's one thing, but.. gah. Not saying I'm an expert or anything, but to me if things like "arms should not swing side to side instead of forward and back" and "posture should be fully erect for optimal breathing" are not obvious to you, then what the hell are you doing just winging it? Get someone for whom that sort of thing is obvious to teach you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymcclellan View Post
    Mike Boyle quoted a study recently that said, "60% of women that take up running will become injured."
    Isn't that partly due to the angle women have from their hips to their knees that men don't? My doctor was explaining that to me and telling me about how there are particular exercises that can strengthen the leg to counteract that inherent weakness in the female structure, but most women don't know about this and therefore end up with a lot of knee injuries.

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    Don't actually know about that but sounds interesting, nice one Red. I would love to read that article Tony is referring to.

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    I once attended a seminar called "Run Like A Child". What's interesting is that children don't necessarily know about or even care about proper running form they just do it and typically injury free. You don't see a bunch of kids running with knee braces on the playground. I know that anatomically their bones and muscles are not developed like an adults are but they do run naturally! The premise of this seminar was for the runner to focus on "obvious" good form for performance purposes but to basically run with your natural gate and run as a child would and without too much thought as to what you are doing. Not sure I agree or disagree but it was interesting and made some good points.

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    The Q-Angle and Injuries In Women Athletes

    The "Q-Angle" and some of the problems it causes for women's knees and ACL's. Probably better articles out there but I'm lazy and this is the first thing that popped up.

    Me, I like my lovely leggings that hug and support my joints and muscles. They make my knees feel great after a run. CW-X is my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracyclang View Post
    I once attended a seminar called "Run Like A Child". What's interesting is that children don't necessarily know about or even care about proper running form they just do it and typically injury free. You don't see a bunch of kids running with knee braces on the playground.
    They also tend to weigh about as much as my right foot and don't have enough muscle development to create a force capable of causing injury. That's probably why small kids stay injury free.

    i.e. I'm 220lbs and as a teen was a good sprinter, I bet I could still run a 13 second 100m with a few weeks pratice to get back in the swing of it. Now that's 220lbs running at 13s 100m pace. My daughter probably weighs about 30lbs and would run 100m in about 50 seconds (more like 120 after she's stopped to pick flowers). What kind of pressures do you think are being placed on our bodies?

    In adult life though, poor form leads to injuries, simple as that. Also, past injuries cause imbalances which lead to more injuries unless they are monitored and form corrected accordingly.

    Go track down the person who gave that seminar and give them a slap round the face for me. Sounds like someone trying to say something interesting or controversial in order to make public speaking money while ignoring the facts

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    The newest trend in fitness is to tell people what they want to hear. A lot of people hate running, so tell them they shouldn't do it! presto! people love you as a fitness guru.

    I do of course think cardio, resistance training and flexibility are all important

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymcclellan View Post
    Mike Boyle quoted a study recently that said, "60% of women that take up running will become injured."
    I'd say 100% of all athletes will become injured at some point

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGOOCH View Post
    I'd say 100% of all athletes will become injured at some point
    They didn't say "athletes" they said "women that take it up" Ponder that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Panda View Post
    They didn't say "athletes" they said "women that take it up" Ponder that.
    by athletes I'm including anyone who exercises whatsoever

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGOOCH View Post
    The newest trend in fitness is to tell people what they want to hear. A lot of people hate running, so tell them they shouldn't do it! presto! people love you as a fitness guru.

    I do of course think cardio, resistance training and flexibility are all important
    Nobody said not to run; the article definitely didn't say that either, it just said that people who don't know what they're doing shouldn't be running.
    Running doesn't get enough respect, people just think they can put one foot in front of the other quite fast and that means they're doing themselves some good but in fact it's an exercise like any other and should be researched first, proper form developed and then intensity increased over time.

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