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  3g (1 tsp) of creatine per day too little? Post #1 (permalink)  
Old Dec. 07/06, 02:14 AM
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3g (1 tsp) of creatine per day too little?

I used to use Musashi creatine (think it was barking dog or something) and I bought another brand which recommends 1 tsp a day but doest say when.

It sounds too little doesn't it? It is Creatine Monohydrate. Or should instructions be followed closely?
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Old Dec. 07/06, 02:50 AM
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Yes it does sound too little, but then I've read a lot of conflicting stuff lately.

I've always thought that 5g per day was the recommended amount. However recently a friend of mine who has been bodybuilding for years said that's not enough. He ups his creatine intake until he begins to get cramps, then lowers it a bit. I think he takes around 15g per day.

And in fact, I've just found a suggestion presented by Dr. Eric Serrano which states that:

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Rather than making a blanket recommendation, Dr. Serrano bases his method on the body weight of the individual taking the creatine:

Week 1
.35g of creatine per kg of bodyweight

Week 2-4
.15g of creatine per kg of bodyweight
Which for me (at 80kgs) works out at 28 Grams Per Day loading, and 12 Grams Per Day maintenance.

But this is talking about pure Creatine Monohydrate, if you start taking different brands containing other things then I'd be careful straying from the recommended amounts.
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Old Dec. 07/06, 03:58 AM
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This is pure Cr. Mhyte
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Old Dec. 07/06, 06:40 AM
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I'd say 3g is fine, it'll just take a little while to build up. Maybe start at 5g for 6 weeks then go down to 3.
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Old Dec. 07/06, 07:46 AM
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Almost any doctor will tell you that your body can't retain any more than 5 grams a day.
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Old Dec. 07/06, 01:16 PM
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Says in this article that the average body stores over 100g of creatine:

Bodybuilding.com - Curtis Koch - Creatine: Beyond The Confusion!

You should read it, looks pretty good
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Old Dec. 07/06, 02:34 PM
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i would imagine it's enough to have some affect. 5g made me quite puffy.
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Old Dec. 07/06, 07:15 PM
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Says in this article that the average body stores over 100g of creatine:

Bodybuilding.com - Curtis Koch - Creatine: Beyond The Confusion!

You should read it, looks pretty good
It does and it also says that you should take 5 grams a day.

Your body does not "store 100 grams a day", it maintains about 100 grams. I said that most doctors will say that you can't retain more than 5 grams per day. Your body might store 100 grams but that doesn't mean that you can replenish 100 grams every day. You can probabally only replenish about 5 grams.
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Old Dec. 07/06, 07:47 PM
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Dont forget that the body naturally produces creatine, and you're are just inputting more into your body for the benefits. Is it 1 tsp or tbsp? 1 tbsp is about 5g.

The loading of creatine has been debunked for a long time.
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1 heaping tsp
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Old Dec. 08/06, 03:33 AM
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It does and it also says that you should take 5 grams a day.
He says "I believe that using body weight and cycling creatine is more beneficial than the standard 20g-load/5g maintenance protocol. Obviously, a 250-pound muscle-head requires more creatine than a 105-pound bikini model."

Read the full paragraph:

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The common practice for taking creatine is to "load" creatine for five to seven days, and then continue to take a "maintenance" amount indefinitely. For example, most supplement manufacturers recommend 20 grams of creatine be taken in five-gram servings for five to seven days followed by five grams per day after that. The idea is that by taking a larger amount of creatine, you can super-saturate the muscle and increase the total creatine pool. Then all you need is a maintenance serving to keep an elevated level of creatine in the muscle. Loading creatine with 20 grams and maintaining with five grams is the most common recommended protocol and the one that has been deemed safe through longer-term studies. (11,12)

Another option for gittin' loaded was presented by Dr. Eric Serrano. Rather than making a "blanket recommendation," Dr. Serrano bases his method on the body weight of the individual taking the creatine:

Week 1
.35g of creatine per kg of bodyweight

Week 2-4
.15g of creatine per kg of bodyweight

Week 5
Off

Although I have no scientific evidence to prove Dr. Serrano's system is better, I believe that using body weight and cycling creatine is more beneficial than the standard 20g-load/5g maintenance protocol. Obviously, a 250-pound muscle-head requires more creatine than a 105-pound bikini model. Another reason I prefer Dr. Serrano's system is that you cycle off and re-load creatine periodically. I can only speak from experience when I say that cycling creatine works better than a simple maintenance of 5g per day. Every time I cycled off, then re-loaded, I noticed an accelerated improvement in performance.
I don't see why this 5g / day is so set in stone, when everyone's body types are different and some people weigh more than others.

EDIT: Another thing I've just thought is maybe thats 0.15KG of LEAN body weight, which for me would still be about 10g / day.

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Old Dec. 11/06, 02:24 PM
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You read the paragraph, he clearly said that there is no scientific evidence to prove this theroy.

If its so obvious where is the proof?

Keep in mind that many of these so called "studies" are funded by the supplement companies. Take 10 grams a day, they make double on you!
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Old Dec. 11/06, 03:15 PM
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so if you have 3 cups of creatine a day.. for say 2 weeks.. and u work out every second day... how noticeable will the results be?
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Old Dec. 13/06, 04:07 PM
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You might have to have kidney surgery if you take 3 cups a day for 2 weeks.

I'd say thats pretty noticeable!
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Old Dec. 13/06, 06:05 PM
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I have to assume that he meant 3g per day... lol
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