The thing a lot of people don't understand is that it's not REALLY a ban. Not on ephedrine anyway. It's a ban on certain ways of marketing it. You can't market it (or claim to use it ) for sports performance or weight loss reasons. It's widely used as a bronchial dilator, and this is one of the fews things you're allowed to market it as.

So MANY ephedra products disappeared from the shelves, but that's because you were probably getting them from name-brand sports manufacturers (and since they were marketing it as a sports supplement, it was taken off the shelves). You can still get the same ephedrine from retailers, often you have to ask for it though because of the risk to the retailer associated with it.

It is still around, legal to sell, and legal to buy.

wanna shoot a few names of the products out there that still contain ephedra? and what exactly is a bronchial dialator??

Vasopro is one of the most common ones.

A bronchial dilator is a product that dilates (widens) your bronchial passage - the airway to your lungs. So basically, makes you breathe better -- another reason why it's a great product.

vasopro is what i used last year. like i had mentioned, it didnt jolt me as much as ephedra did which i liked and was why i had stopped using ephedra years ago.

its pretty cheap too but i decided not to do it this year.

david greenwalt

Here's why ephedra is going to be outlawed in case
you don't want to read any further--mass hysteria and
class-action lawsuits.

The FDA initially started the ball rolling years ago.
The media took hold of the first few "claimed" ephedra
deaths and, as they are so good at, never let it go
from there. 99.5% of Americans couldn't even spell
ephedra, let alone it's Chinese name of Ma Huang just
a few years ago. But in this short time ephedra went
from being a safe and effective brochodilator to KILLER
OF ALL!

In the past couple years salivating, entrepreneurial
attorneys grabbed hold of what they could and made
enough of a civil case to get some cash for their clients.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, was the REAL beginning
of the end for ephedra.

The FDA had failed miserably to get ephedra banned
earlier. Why? Because their evidence sucked and they
were called on the carpet and literally "sent to their
room without supper" and "scolded" by a another governmental
committe empowered to oversee their research and "hazards"
discovered. So, since they couldn't ban it on their
own they found another way -- they created a public
awareness unprecedented in their history in publicly
CALLING for people to report adverse events should
they ever experience them. My God folks. Wake up if
you don't understand human behavior here.

The FDA doesn't like effective supplements. They hurt the drug industry, which they make massive amounts of money from.

bump on that. wonder what they're gonna set their sights on next.

What I love is far more deaths result from asprin use over ephedra use and it's still on the market. I don't buy that b.s., Austaph, that the FDA is out to save us. And, by the way guys, you can buy Ma Huang seeds and grow it.

Mreik, after taking the Hot Rox for a bit, I do recommend it. I think part of why I've progressed so nicely with the weight loss is due to reduced calories, Hot Rox, fish oil, and high dosages of CLA.

This is the next big thing: http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james24.htm

Codex is trying to make any amount of any nutrient greater than the US RDA levels prescription only. They also want to start requiring centralized product testing - basically, they're turning themselves into an FDA for supplements (which means the cost of supplements will increase tenfold).

i might have asked before, but the search forum wont let me look it up because its too few characters. What is CLA? Sorry for asking again =)

Conjugated Lineolic Acid. It's a non-stimulant "fat burner". They're not quite sure how it works, just that it does in fact increase metabolism in the body.

Spend some time over at pubmed.com, they've got quite a few articles that you can review on CLA supplementation.

I believe CLAs are found in food right?

I just found 3 bottles of ripped fuel with ephedra, so im good to go. anyways im gonna get some CLA to go along with that. but thanks for the info

CLA is found in some foods but usually in very limited dosages. I'll see if I can't scan the compliation of articles I have about CLA and the research done about it and throw it up on here.

Mreik, Twinlab has the non-ephedra stuff that has the bitter orange in it. It's supposed to act as a "mild ephedra".