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Feb. 26/08, 02:52 PM
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| | | fat burner and antibiotics I just bought a fat burner and I'm going on antibiotics for achilles tendonitis starting tomorrow. Is it okay to take them at the same time? | 
Feb. 26/08, 03:15 PM
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| | | considering mixing drugs isnt usually a good idea, best to discuss it with the person who supplied you with the antibiotics. | 
Feb. 26/08, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner52 I just bought a fat burner and I'm going on antibiotics for achilles tendonitis starting tomorrow. Is it okay to take them at the same time? | Why did you buy into the "hype" with fat burners, when the ultimate and greatest fat burner of "ALL TIME" is within your own skin: YOU.
When you look in the mirror and it reveals your reflection make the connection that your body has the capability to bring fat burning to perfection. Therefore toss fat burners in the bin of rejection and enter fat loss resurrection.
You will always be the ultimate fat burner.
Chillen | 
Feb. 26/08, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chillen Why did you buy into the "hype" with fat burners, when the ultimate and greatest fat burner of "ALL TIME" is within your own skin: YOU.
When you look in the mirror and it reveals your reflection make the connection that your body has the capability to bring fat burning to perfection. Therefore toss fat burners in the bin of rejection and enter fat loss resurrection.
You will always be the ultimate fat burner.
Chillen | Because I think they help to a considerable amount. I have been up and down with my diet and it will help to suppress my appetite and also gives a reassurance of some other help. I know that diet is number 1 importance and of course proper exercise is a close second, but it's just a helpful product. It's not hype anymore. I've used it with effective results.
Thank you for your input though  , much appreciated | 
Feb. 27/08, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner52 Because I think they help to a considerable amount. I have been up and down with my diet and it will help to suppress my appetite and also gives a reassurance of some other help. I know that diet is number 1 importance and of course proper exercise is a close second, but it's just a helpful product. It's not hype anymore. I've used it with effective results.
Thank you for your input though  , much appreciated | What product have you been using? | 
Feb. 27/08, 04:12 AM
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| | Don't take my post in the wrong manner; I am just not a fan of over the counter fat burners, obviously.
The human body is designed to eat and perform physical activity; I think this is a rather safe and obvious fact.
How one manipulates these two base facts, how one manipulates "choice" within their personal operating environment (life style), and react to the corresponding body reaction and adaption, will determine the quality of the results.
This base premise has served me extremely well.
For example. If I want to raise my aging metabolism, I manipulate physical activity and calorie "consumption", IMO. This is the natural metabolism booster.
I don't need a thermogenic for this.
Physical activity and calorie manipulation are my thermogenic. I never have to question whether its the correct combination of things to manipulate, I just have to be concerned with how to properly manipulate these to become an effective fat loss or muscle growing machine.
I just prefer to manipulate the variables that naturally come through the body's design intention.
Not all of us are created equal in terms of fat loss and muscle growth efficiency. But, assuming one has no health complications (organ and hormonal problems, etc, where medical service may be needed), the two basic manipulations still hold true. For some it can be a major battle between the two variables--to find one that is effective.
Over the counter fat loss products, are designed to manipulate the consumers personal senses; it goes to the very core in what the potential buyer is trying to manipulate. And, this sells products.
And, in the marketing sense, this works and is a powerful manipulative force to one that doesn’t look at these products through: Educated Eyes.
But this is just me.
Best regards,
Chillen
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Last edited by Chillen; Feb. 27/08 at 04:03 PM.
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Feb. 27/08, 06:24 AM
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| | | I value your opinion and input, but I still feel that it is a great deal of help. While I KNOW that diet and exercise and manipulation of those two are the key points to any healthy lifestyle. I just know that it will help me get to where I want to be. Once I'm there, I know I can stay there on my own.
And I haven't used anything in a long time, but what I have used is Syntrax Fyre | 
Feb. 27/08, 07:09 AM
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| | That stuff sounds like effing garbage.
Other than caffine and green tea extract, it contains "Fyre™ Proprietary Formula 505mg"...whatever the hell that is.
If you're going to use a fat burner, at least use one that tells you the actual ingredients. THen you can research it and you'll know if its bunk like this one, or actually useful.
While I completely agree with Chillen, I'll be nice and recommend Thermocin and Nitor from At Large Nutrition - Your number one choice for nutritional supplements.
Thermocin is probably the one you'd want. Nitor is pretty extreme and not everyone can handle it.
Of course, no thermogenics while you're on those anti-biotics. just play it safe. plus, even good thermo's don't do THAT much in the long run. | 
Feb. 27/08, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by malkore That stuff sounds like effing garbage.
Other than caffine and green tea extract, it contains "Fyre™ Proprietary Formula 505mg"...whatever the hell that is.
If you're going to use a fat burner, at least use one that tells you the actual ingredients. THen you can research it and you'll know if its bunk like this one, or actually useful.
While I completely agree with Chillen, I'll be nice and recommend Thermocin and Nitor from At Large Nutrition - Your number one choice for nutritional supplements.
Thermocin is probably the one you'd want. Nitor is pretty extreme and not everyone can handle it.
Of course, no thermogenics while you're on those anti-biotics. just play it safe. plus, even good thermo's don't do THAT much in the long run. |
Nitor:
Guarana Extract (22% caffeine) 680 mg *
Kola Nut Extract
(50% caffeine) 200 mg *
Green Tea Extract
(90mg of EGCG & 50mg caffeine) 750 mg * Glucomannan 500 mg *
7 Keto ® (7-oxo-DHEA) 100 mg *
* Daily Value (DV) not established.
I am familiar with all the ingredients in this product with the exception of what I have highlighted: Glucomannan
Do you have any available and good research on this ingredient, by chance. It tweaked my investigative and wanting to learn instinct.
Thanks,
Chillen
Last edited by Chillen; Feb. 27/08 at 07:38 AM.
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Feb. 27/08, 11:16 AM
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| | | I do not have any info on it. HOwever, atlarge runs the WannaBeBig.com forums, and they have employees who can answer that question, if its not already covered in an older post. | 
Feb. 27/08, 12:00 PM
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| | Sorry for the error, I meant anti-inflammatories, not anti-biotics, but I guess it's the same deal as far as taking them at the same time. I'll just wait until they're done I guess.
And yeah as Chillen posted, it does tell you all the ingredients. Quote:
Glucomannan
Extracted from vegetable pulp, this fiber forms a thick, indigestible gel when exposed to liquid. Swallow a capsule and it will do the same thing, bulking up to fill your stomach and suppress your appetite. A Norwegian study showed that people taking glucomannan lost an average of 5.5 pounds over eight weeks, without exercise or dieting.
| that's an excerpt taken from Men's Fitness if it helps at all | 
Feb. 27/08, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by malkore I do not have any info on it. HOwever, atlarge runs the WannaBeBig.com forums, and they have employees who can answer that question, if its not already covered in an older post. | Thanks for the post, Malkore. I will conduct a research on it. My willingness to learn about a new ingredient I wasnt aware of in fat burners tweaks my desire to learn juices. THIS ROCKS! oh........I am done, now. he, he.
I still like governing "My Personal Science" (my former post) and tweaking the almighty-calorie-v-activity-o-meter for the results I want.
Chillen | 
Feb. 27/08, 04:03 PM
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| | To add to post #6: IMO, there is a "personal science" involved in what a person will tolerate and what they will not tolerate within their lifestyle when it concerns adding in diet and fitness.
I firmly believe in the "personal and individual science" of tracking calories and weight training data and governing this calorie intake and weight training data while watching bodily feedback; and, being able to use the tracking data correctly to manipulate your calorie intake v activity ratio to a personal goal benefit. The science is learning yourself within the data and tweaking this to one's goal advantage. YOU WILL FEEL THE THUNDER WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT!
It will knock your socks right off your feet, baby!
Chillen
Last edited by Chillen; Feb. 27/08 at 04:08 PM.
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Feb. 27/08, 04:39 PM
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| | ay yo check it out: Complete Glucomannan information from Drugs.com
I looked around. It basically a fiber absorbs a s**tload of water in your stomach and is slowly digested to make you feel full. | 
Feb. 27/08, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by amp89 | Thanks, AMP.
In other words, its nothing that my mind, calorie manipulations, and in home (and work) food-craving-o-meter, cant handle.
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