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Apr. 10/08, 03:10 PM
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| | | Fat loss while Bulking I have been bulking for a few months now with no cardio at all and have now got to the point where I seriously need to lose fat. I've heard it so many times that you can't bulk and cut at the same time. But if I carry on eating alot of protein and lifting heavy weights but add in HIIT like 3 times a week, will I be able to lose fat and gain muscle. | 
Apr. 10/08, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom16 I have been bulking for a few months now with no cardio at all and have now got to the point where I seriously need to lose fat. I've heard it so many times that you can't bulk and cut at the same time. But if I carry on eating alot of protein and lifting heavy weights but add in HIIT like 3 times a week, will I be able to lose fat and gain muscle. | IMO certainly not.
It takes a lot of diet tweaks to accomplish this. | 
Apr. 10/08, 03:22 PM
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| | | Different type of cardio I've been bulking for a few months with no cardio and have gained quite alot of fat which I need to get rid of but I hate cardio. I find it so boring and so hard, I have been doing HIIT on a stairclimber machine for 20 minutes but I hate it. Is there anything else I could do. I hear that some people do things such as sled dragging or tire flipping but the sleds cost alot and I'm not sure where I would get a huge tyre from.
Any help would be appreciated. | 
Apr. 10/08, 03:23 PM
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| | | Sleds are about 80 bucks on eBay. You could try doing about 10 minutes of sprinting outside. That would work much better for you. Intervals on a stair master are kind of crappy anyway. | 
Apr. 10/08, 03:31 PM
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| | | lol, i actually meant to make that second post a new thread, oh well.
Ok thats what I thought.
Tony- I'll have a look on ebay or maybe i'll try making one. Is ten minutes sprinting really enough? | 
Apr. 10/08, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom16 lol, i actually meant to make that second post a new thread, oh well.
Ok thats what I thought.
Tony- I'll have a look on ebay or maybe i'll try making one. Is ten minutes sprinting really enough? | It's all about the calorie defecit. You have to create a calorie defecit. So it depends on what you eat if that much cardio is enough or not. | 
Apr. 10/08, 04:21 PM
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Apr. 10/08, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Phate89 | I have to disagree with that. It is still possible to accomplish both. Granted gains in both directions are a little slower... but doable. I've had the opportunity to study collegiate trainers and nutritionists in hockey and football, and (with the exception of the front o and d lines) there was never an emphasis on bulking or cutting, and these are some of the fittest athletes out there.
And just speaking from personal experience, I've never had any problems losing weight and improving my lifts.
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Apr. 11/08, 03:37 AM
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| | Looks like I'm just going to have to concentrate on losing fat then, although i'm so worried about losing size and strength. I have worked up from a 120lb bench press to a 200lb+ bench press over about 4-5 months and I'm so worried that I'll lose that if I start to cut | 
Apr. 11/08, 03:52 AM
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| | | If you type burn the fat, feed the muscle into your search engine, you should be able to see the ideas behind that program. | 
Apr. 11/08, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by illiniphase4 I have to disagree with that. It is still possible to accomplish both. Granted gains in both directions are a little slower... but doable. I've had the opportunity to study collegiate trainers and nutritionists in hockey and football, and (with the exception of the front o and d lines) there was never an emphasis on bulking or cutting, and these are some of the fittest athletes out there.
And just speaking from personal experience, I've never had any problems losing weight and improving my lifts. | This is what confuses me, it is said that you cant gain fat and lose muscle at the same time. However, a ton of the people that workout in my college gym are jacked and lean, and I'm pretty sure most of them have never even heard of bulking and cutting, so I know its not impossible or even rare. I just have to figure out how... | 
Apr. 11/08, 02:59 PM
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Apr. 13/08, 04:31 PM
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| | | I think it depends on the person like everything else but I found that I actually seem to gain a little muscle while burning fat if I stay just 100 or 200 cals under my maintenance and eating properly. You might try this it'll just take a little longer to lose the fat but if your really concerned about not losing what you've worked for then it might be worth a shot. Even when I cut 20% though I still never lost what I had I just wasnt able to increase my strength. | 
Apr. 14/08, 11:21 AM
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| | | Thanks, I'm going to try eating super clean but keep the protein up for a couple of weeks and see how that goes. | 
Apr. 15/08, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by amp89 . . .However, a ton of the people that workout in my college gym are jacked and lean, and I'm pretty sure most of them have never even heard of bulking and cutting, so I know its not impossible or even rare. . . | I wouldn't get too discouraged by the other guys at the college gym. I'm in school now too. It's so irritating when I have to monitor my diet and workout hard just to get a peek at my stomache lines while seeing these guys straight out of high school, who rarely lift correctly, bringe drink on the weekends, continue to be jacked. Oh well, their lifestyles will catch up to them eventually. |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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