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  I challenge you! 6 Pack Abs By June 1st! Post #31 (permalink)  
Old Mar. 18/08, 01:49 PM
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...Ren McCormack just doesn't do it for me anymore.
Nothig like chicken on a tractor.
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Oh come on now....let's put things in perspective.

TFV came on with a lot of enthusiasm & promise....it sorta sounded like spam (and we get a lot of that here)...but time will tell. I think his enthusiasm & confidence was misinterpretted as having some arrogance. He's trying to be a leader, it happens. Whatever. Let's see how things play-out and give him the benefit of the doubt.

Chillen rose to the occassion and blew his fitness wad by proclaiming the "I'm almost 50 and sub 8%". Newflash: Chillen already has an 8-pack, he's disqualified from the 6-pack Challenge because he's already there (and beyond it).

Nobody "worships" Chillen. He's a popular guy cause he strives to help & motivate people in his own post-excessive-drug-use way But to his credit, he's comfortable referring people to Wrangell & Derwydon for more technical info. It's all good, leave his Chillenness alone.

Gooch, you could do better.

Mabye TFV is looking for some people to make a change and then use for reference...or maybe he just feels like helping people. Time and again I've contemplated putting together a Fitness/Health center and bringing together a great team of people to offer help to the obese & unhealthy masses; there's a sense of Godliness in helping people. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't see a spam/profit motive here for TFV, I think he just came across with enthusiasm, confidence and a quick rise to show leadership....and a few of us jumped on him with well-placed skepticism.

Enough.

Hey, I'm starting to show some ab lines and would be interested in hearing about any program that could help me develop and get further. TFV, count me in. And I'm in California so maybe I'll take-on all 5 of your team at once......years of watching professional wrestling have given me the intellectual advantage & edge: I'm good with the chiar, table, referee distraction and misdirection. Hook a fatty up!

Seriously; I'm in!
Hey BikeSwimLaugh thanks for putting things in perspective like that. I think you did a good job. And glad to hear that you will be joining the challenge/journey to have 6 pack abs by June 1st. I hope that I can help you out as much as possible. I think its gonna be really cool and help out alot of people have a better summer with a better body. Everyone wants 6 pack abs for summer so why not try this out. Haha and you should definately come out and take on the team. We'd love to have you. We havnt used tables and chairs in a while though so our technique may be lacking haha
Seriously though Iv never fought someone with a chair before, but I have fought someone that pulled out a knife at a party a few years back which was pretty exciting!
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  I challenge you! 6 Pack Abs By June 1st! Post #33 (permalink)  
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I'm joking about fighting. I'm too delicate to fight. Besides, I'm Jewish....we sue

I'm 5'8" and weigh about 225-pounds (been a month since weigh-in)....BUT I'm being body-fat measured (by a very qualified person & calipers) at about 11.8% body-fat. In reality, I'm figuring more like 14-15% body-fat, but still..given the weight/height, you can figure out the muscular composition.

I've got the vertical side-lines of my abs nicely in and the tops are just starting to emerge...I think I'm on the cusp of seeing some cuts & definition, so I'm pretty close as is.

I'm in Los Angeles. Tell me where we go from here.

And don't let Derwydon get to ya, she's just upset cause I wouldn't get her a cheese pizza the other night.
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I dont know if anyone "worships" Chillen. I made the comment because I believe he could handle the workout based on what I know of his training routine and that fact he already has the 6 pack that the workout is designed to provide. Chillen is respected because he takes the time to advise and provide motivation to other members on here who ask it of him. Just as you and Derwyddon provide advice and also get the same respect, at least from me you do.
So you are not confident in yourself that you could handle the workout?
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So you are not confident in yourself that you could handle the workout?
Im still in the process of getting into shape...so its possible I couldnt handle it depending on the type of workout and what it entails.
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  I challenge you! 6 Pack Abs By June 1st! Post #36 (permalink)  
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I dont know if anyone "worships" Chillen.
It's anyones guess......but, I know I certainly don't.

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I made the comment because I believe he could handle the workout based on what I know of his training routine and that fact he already has the 6 pack that the workout is designed to provide.
I suppose that's a possibility.

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Chillen is respected because he takes the time to advise and provide motivation to other members on here who ask it of him.
Well, I suspect if you ask any of the other regular contributors for advice on health & fitness and or issues pertaining to motivation, they'd be more than happy & willing to help out. In fact, based on my short time on this forum I'd say almost any member that has specifically been asked for advice almost always - and generously - provides it.

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Just as you and Derwyddon provide advice and also get the same respect, at least from me you do.
With respect to providing advice, Chillen should garner the same amount of respect as any other member who provides valid advice on this forum IMO. With the possible exception of the advice one might get from some of the certified trainers on this forum - which may carry more weight as a result of the fact they are able to draw upon both a solid grounding of academic-based knowledge along with a well of practical field experience dealing with a variety of clients.
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  I challenge you! 6 Pack Abs By June 1st! Post #37 (permalink)  
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It's anyones guess......but, I know I certainly don't.



I suppose that's a possibility.



Well, I suspect if you ask any of the other regular contributors for advice on health & fitness and or issues pertaining to motivation, they'd be more than happy & willing to help out. In fact, based on my short time on this forum I'd say almost any member that has specifically been asked for advice almost always - and generously - provides it.



With respect to providing advice, Chillen should garner the same amount of respect as any other member who provides valid advice on this forum IMO. With the possible exception of the advice one might get from some of the certified trainers on this forum - which may carry more weight as a result of the fact they are able to draw upon both a solid grounding of academic-based knowledge along with a well of practical field experience dealing with a variety of clients.
Thats why chillen imo is the most respected and most liked member of this forum. He strives to motivate and help people with their problems. When he sees someone is having problems, he makes sure to visit their journals and give a good word of advice, and this is just one of the few reasons many members on this forum including myself go to him for advice. Not "certified personal trainers".
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  I challenge you! 6 Pack Abs By June 1st! Post #38 (permalink)  
Old Mar. 18/08, 08:54 PM
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Thats why chillen imo is the most respected and most liked member of this forum
With all due respect, I suspect it would be more accurate to say he may be among one of many well respected members ( i.e somewhere in the ' Top 40 ' perhaps ) on this forum IMO.

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He strives to motivate and help people with their problems.
As do many other well respected members on this forum IMO.

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When he sees someone is having problems, he makes sure to visit their journals and give a good word of advice, and this is just one of the few reasons many members on this forum including myself go to him for advice
And I suspect just as many - perhaps more - do not seek out any advice at all from Chillen .....for whatever reason.

But rather, seek it from other well respected members on this forum.

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Not "certified personal trainers".
I'm not saying all personal trainers are perfect....and granted, some fitness certifications are more highly regarded than others.

That said, for those contributing trainers on this forum for which personal training is either a part or full time vocation, the experience they've gleaned from working with a variety of clients - in some cases 5 days a week year in, year out - is invaluable to us as forum members IMO.

If I was serious about long term lifestyle changes, and I wanted to do it in a safe, efficient and intelligent manner I'd want to seek out some solid professional advice on health & fitness & training. The first place I would start would be an experienced personal trainer ( preferably, certified by the The National Strength and Conditioning Association...but that's just me ) and then I'd get advice with someone who is an experienced university educated sports / nutritionist. I certainly wouldn't seek out the advice from someone simply because they happen to have sub 10% body fat, and I'd be even less inclined if their only academic health science qualifications were degrees in philosophy / psychology & computer science....or, music, French, art history - whatever. But then again, that's just me.

But, if you think Chillen has more to offer than some of the more experienced trainers on this forum, you're certainly entitled to hold that view. I respect your opinion.

I just don't happen to share it.

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Old Mar. 18/08, 09:06 PM
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Dudes, for real? Let's hug it out and get to the ab-makin'.
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Dudes, for real? Let's hug it out and get to the ab-makin'.
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I'm joking about fighting. I'm too delicate to fight. Besides, I'm Jewish....we sue

I'm 5'8" and weigh about 225-pounds (been a month since weigh-in)....BUT I'm being body-fat measured (by a very qualified person & calipers) at about 11.8% body-fat. In reality, I'm figuring more like 14-15% body-fat, but still..given the weight/height, you can figure out the muscular composition.

I've got the vertical side-lines of my abs nicely in and the tops are just starting to emerge...I think I'm on the cusp of seeing some cuts & definition, so I'm pretty close as is.

I'm in Los Angeles. Tell me where we go from here.

And don't let Derwydon get to ya, she's just upset cause I wouldn't get her a cheese pizza the other night.
BikeSwimLaugh that was hilarious!haha The funny thing is there is a guy who trains with us in our jujitsu class and he jewish and an attorney! And when ever we tap him out we always joke that hes gonna sue us!lol

Thats pretty low body fat % for your height and weight. Congrats. I think that I could help you get that even lower. Im 5' 9'' and 170lbs with 4.6% body fat from calipers and 6.1% body fat measure from a hydrostatic body fat test. I have experimented with so many routines and nutrition plans and finally designed my own that work amazing. I am publishing the first 15 day nutrition plan and workout plan today on my site and if you like I will copy and post it into this forum as well.

haha aww Derwydon needs her cheese pizza. I personally love hawaiin pineapple with canadian bacon! mmmm
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my experience with trainers (no offense to anyone) is they are almost as bad as architects. You ask the same question to 5 trainers and you get 7 answers.

I'm sure each answer is correct based on that individual trainers experience but you ultimately have to filter out what works for you.

Now everyone kiss and make up.
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I am publishing the first 15 day nutrition plan and workout plan today on my site and if you like I will copy and post it into this forum as well.
Sure, that sounds great....I'd would love to see what you've put together from your experience.

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my experience with trainers (no offense to anyone) is they are almost as bad as architects. You ask the same question to 5 trainers and you get 7 answers..
So true!!! And have you noticed how flaky, unreliable and "scewy" with their lives (like a soap opera of sorts)...and like you said, no offense to anyone. All the trainers on this forum are the exception.
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[QUOTE=BikeSwimLaugh;274764]Sure, that sounds great....I'd would love to see what you've put together from your experience.

Part 1

Today is the day! Your 75 day journey to 6 pack abs begins today! I hope that all of you completed the three preliminary tasks that I wrote in the last article. 1. Make and sign your contract. 2. Get a detailed vision of your dream abs and focus on that vision everyday. 3. Tell your friends and family about this and get them involved and get their support.

Okay here we go. This nutrition plan and workout plan is to be followed for 15 days. Every other day I will be posting the next 15 day nutrition plan and workout plan, so be sure to check back for that and any other special tips and tricks that I will be posting to help you on your journey.

Day 1-15 Nutrition Plan: Will consist of 6 meals a day and I will be giving you a variety of meal options to choose from for each meal.

Breakfast: Option 1: 3 eggs (2 whole eggs & 1 egg white), 1/2 cup of oatmeal, handful of blueberries

Option 2: 3 eggs (2 whole eggs & 1 egg white), 1/2 cup of granola with milk, one medium sized banana

Snack #1: Option 1: Protein bar (promax bar or zone bar), 1 apple (preferably braeburn)

Option 2: Protein bar (promax bar or zone bar), 1 low fat yogurt

Lunch: Option 1: Turkey or Roast beef or chicken or tuna sandwich-Whole Wheat bread (preferably with no hydrogenated oil), Low sodium turkey, lettuce, tomato, red onion, and mustard. And a mixed greens salad with balsamic vinaigrette dressing.

Snack #2: Option 1: Protein bar (promax or zone bar) and 1 cup of broccoli.

Option 2: Protein bar (promax or zone bar) and 1 cup of cauliflower

Dinner: Option 1: Chicken or Fish or Lean steak or Lean ground beef, 1/2 cup of brown rice, 1 cup of broccoli or asparagus or cauliflower.

Snack #3: Option 1: 1/2 cup of Non-fat cottage cheese

***Make sure you are drinking plenty of water. And black coffee and hot green tea is okay with breakfast and after dinner. No sodas or alcoholic drinks is preferred for best results***

Day 1-15 Workout plan: Will consist of your cardio and ab routine that is to be done every other day of the week. Just add this routine to your regular weight training routine. If you need help making a weight training routine as well just let me know.

Day 1: Cardio: 30 min. of elyptical at low intensity in the morning on an empty stomach

Abs: 3 sets of 25 full sit ups, 3 sets of 15 reverse crunches, 3 sets of 20 bicycle crunches

Day 3: Cardio: 30 min. of treadmill at low intensity jog in the morning on an empty stomach

Abs: 3 sets of 20 sit ups on decline bench, 3 sets of 15 leg lifts, 3 sets of 20 bicycle crunches

Day 5: Cardio: 30 min. of stair stepper at low intensity in the morning on an empty stomach

Abs: 3 sets of 30 floor crunches, 3 sets of 15 reverse crunches, 3 sets of 20 bicycle crunches

Day 7: Cardio: 30 min. of elyptical at low intensity in the morning on an empty stomach

Abs: 3 sets of 25 full sit ups, 3 sets of 40 bicycle crunches

Day 9: Cardio: 30 min. on treadmill at low intensity jog in the morning on an empty stomach

Abs: 3 sets of 25 sit ups, 3 sets of 25 reverse crunches

Day 11: Cardio: 30 min. on stair stepper at low intensity in the morning on an empty stomach

Abs: 2 sets of 35 sit ups, 2 sets of 50 bicycle crunches

Day 13: Cardio: 8 sets of 100 jump ropes

Abs: 3 sets of 10 on ab wheel, 3 sets of 25 floor crunches

Day 15: Cardio: Hitting the punching bag for 5 rounds of 3 min each. Using 12oz to 16oz gloves. Keep a steady pace of combos and foot work.

Abs: 3 sets of 10 on ab wheel, 3 sets of 15 reverse crunches.

There it is! The first 15 days to achieving you 6 pack for summer! Follow the best to your abilities and ask about anything you are un sure of!

Congratulations and Goodluck!
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What is the total caloric range of the daily meals and what is the Carb/fat/protein %?
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