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I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 1 ( permalink)

Apr. 04/08, 11:49 PM
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| | | I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? I've been stuck at the same weight (164) and BF% (14) for the last month, despite a 1000 calorie deficit. My maintenance is at 2550 right now. Is 1550 too low of a calorie intake?
Should maybe I bring it up to 1800 to loose weight?
(Additional details: 6' tall, 20 y/o, I'd like to cut off some of the winter bulk for the summer time. I would have kept on bulking before, but I couldn't fit in my pants anymore  . my goal is around 9-10% BF) |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 2 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 12:16 PM
|  | Verge of Overtraining | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Woodland Hills, California
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Originally Posted by nickorette My maintenance is at 2550 right now. Is 1550 too low of a calorie intake?
Should maybe I bring it up to 1800 to loose weight? | Welcome to my world.....
I don't really know what to tell ya. I too have my calories down and I exercise like a fiend.....it's as if my body has adapted and become more efficient to the point where I've also hit an equilibrium.
From my experience, eating a bit more will not cause your body to loose weight. I suppose the theory goes that when your body gets enough, it figures it doesn't need to store the fat and it lets it go. I don't buy that; more is never less when it comes to calories.
If you're like me, you probably have a little (healthy) snack here and a little snack here. Maybe your portions have gradually increased and there's always the possibility that you're sleep-eating (getting out of bed, walking to the kitchen and polishing-off a gallon of ice-cream...or just hitting the dog food).
My hunch is that our bodies find a place where they want to be and busting below that is really tough. Take a hard & long inventory of just how many calories you're eating...you may be surprised where a couple hundred are slipping past the count. Beyond that, mix-up your exercise and maybe fluctuate your caloric intake....if you subscribe to the notion behind this theory. On the whole, I'm still an advocate of calories-in vs. calories-out...and all the games, mixing and variables just account for a small fraction of change.
Find what works for you, but NEVER stop complaining!!!! |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 3 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nickorette I've been stuck at the same weight (164) and BF% (14) for the last month, despite a 1000 calorie deficit. My maintenance is at 2550 right now. Is 1550 too low of a calorie intake?
Should maybe I bring it up to 1800 to loose weight?
(Additional details: 6' tall, 20 y/o, I'd like to cut off some of the winter bulk for the summer time. I would have kept on bulking before, but I couldn't fit in my pants anymore  . my goal is around 9-10% BF) | Hehe I hope you don't mind me laughing at the fact that you couldn't fit in your pants anymore. You have not been at a 1000 calorie deficit and maintained the same weight - you may be sneaking in treats/high calorie sweets or not counting your calories properly.
A 1000 calorie deficit is considered starvation and a 500 calorie deficit is considered healthy. You need to exercise either weights/Cardio/ HIIT together with a caloric deficit to lose weight. |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 4 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 03:14 PM
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| | | I dunno. I've heard about your body going into starvation mode if it doesn't get enough calories, which I understand won't get you anywhere.
I've also read that a man should never go below 1800 calories.
I don't want to go below a 1000 calorie deficit, I really don't want to loose any of the muscle I've worked to hard to get. I dunno. Maybe I"ll go a week at 1200 cals and see what my BF% scale says.
When I was loosing weight last year I was down to 1200 calories/day, but than again I was only doing cardio, and had next to no muscle mass as it was. |
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Apr. 05/08, 03:28 PM
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| | | I hope you are not confusing a calorie deficit of 500 to mean you should eat only 500 calories a day. If you need 2500 calories as your maintenance level, eating 2000 calories created a 500 caloric deficit. Eating 1500 or 1200 calories as you propose/have done is suicidal as anything above a 500 caloric deficit is unhealthy. |
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Apr. 05/08, 05:29 PM
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| | | I think the basic rule is 20% less then your BMR....
Last edited by BikeSwimLaugh; Apr. 05/08 at 07:10 PM.
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I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 7 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 06:09 PM
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| | | 20% not 2% |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 8 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 07:12 PM
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| | Yeah, 20%.....that's what I wrote.
(caught the mistake myself too), 'sup Amp? |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 9 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tribal I hope you are not confusing a calorie deficit of 500 to mean you should eat only 500 calories a day. If you need 2500 calories as your maintenance level, eating 2000 calories created a 500 caloric deficit. Eating 1500 or 1200 calories as you propose/have done is suicidal as anything above a 500 caloric deficit is unhealthy. | I can assure you I am pretty good with calorie counting, I am always +/- 150 calories per day on my set amount. And I know what deficits are. If maintenance is 2500, and I eat 1500, than that's a 1000 calorie deficit. I have been on a 1000 calorie deficit for two months. The first month I lost 3% body fat (according to electronic scale). Doing the same thing this month has lead to no change in weight or body fat %.
What do you suggest I do? How would you explain my situation?
(If it makes a difference I do have a bit of a hypoactive tyroid, I've been tested a few times, and I'm good enough to not need medication, but I'm on the high end of normal.) |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 10 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 07:23 PM
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| | | Instead of lowering calories, increase volume of exercise. |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 11 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nickorette I can assure you I am pretty good with calorie counting, I am always +/- 150 calories per day on my set amount. And I know what deficits are. If maintenance is 2500, and I eat 1500, than that's a 1000 calorie deficit. I have been on a 1000 calorie deficit for two months. The first month I lost 3% body fat (according to electronic scale). Doing the same thing this month has lead to no change in weight or body fat %.
What do you suggest I do? How would you explain my situation?
(If it makes a difference I do have a bit of a hypoactive tyroid, I've been tested a few times, and I'm good enough to not need medication, but I'm on the high end of normal.) | I would take a week off the diet and eat normally.
Once you get done doing that start to lower your calories and increase exercise.
It's a pretty standard plateau busting technique. |
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Apr. 05/08, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BikeSwimLaugh I think the basic rule is 20% less then your BMR.... | You mean 20% below your ' maintenance level ' of calories don't you ?
BMR is just the largest component of what contributes to your overall ' maintenance level ' of calories. |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 13 ( permalink)

Apr. 05/08, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrangell You mean 20% below your ' maintenance level ' of calories don't you ? | Yep, thanks for the clarification. |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 14 ( permalink)

Apr. 06/08, 09:27 AM
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| | | Hey whats up bsl?
Anyway to the OP, i agree with Realworksucks, you should try and eat over maintenance for a day or two by a little bit, and then go back to cutting calories. Your body is probably used to being in that deficit, so it needs some change. |
I seemed to have hit a wall. Cutting too much perhaps? Post # 15 ( permalink)

Apr. 14/08, 10:13 AM
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| | | Well it worked! I droped to 12.5% just by eating at maintenance this week. I guess I must have been not eating enough after all. I'll try and keep it between 1800 and 2000 and I'll see how my body does in the next few weeks. |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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