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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #16 (permalink)  
Old May. 17/08, 03:58 PM
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Confusing

Listen, so basically what u r saying is that we can't rely on the information u r giving us because u r not even sure how to count calories properly. It's impossible to really tell u, we haven't got any idea how u look like.

Your low carb comments just mirror your negative attitude towards that specific diet, which is perfectly fine. It is really important for u to learn how to count food calories properly though otherwise u will never reach ur goals and u will b frustrated for long periods of time.

The solution for u is a POLAR watch that will tell you how many calories u burn when doing ur activities. If you can post a picture of how you look now we will get a better idea of what's wrong with the things u r doing.
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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #17 (permalink)  
Old May. 17/08, 05:38 PM
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I'll look into this watch that you talked about. But, regardless of that, all the calorie calculaters generally give choices such as "moderative activity", etc instead of an actuall measurement of calories burned. In that regards, if you look at my journal I would say I'm moderate to very active by exercising 5-6 times a week for an hour or more. As for an image, absolutetly!



Lastly about the diet. The low carb thing I have done and I haven't seen results. Besides the inconvenience, I have tried it and found it no different then anything else (probably because my carb consumption is already low to begin with). So, iunno, I just don't think it works for me. Now this is making me sound like I eat lots of carbs, which is completely untrue! I eat maybe 100 or so grams of carbs a day, which amounts to around 20-25% of my total calories, not alot!

Anyway, I apreciate your help tenfold and am very interested in learning more about this and adjusting myself based on the advice you give. Thanks to everyone who has helped so far! Thanks much!
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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #18 (permalink)  
Old May. 17/08, 10:02 PM
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Your problem is your carb intake. Every gram of carbs retains around 4 ml of water. Reduce your carbs to no more than 50 grams a day and u will see changes from the first 2 weeks. Drastic changes! Nobody wants to admit it but a low carb diet is the way forward. Treat yourself with a high-carb nice dessert at lunch time every Saturday or Sunday, just to keep yourself happy and to have something to look forward to. Let me know how it goes.
Thats the worst piece of advice iv'e read for a long time.

The weight loss isn't even fat, the diet is destined to fail.
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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #19 (permalink)  
Old May. 17/08, 10:16 PM
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I would bulk very cleanly if I was you, You dont have enough muscle to warrant cutting at this stage
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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #20 (permalink)  
Old May. 18/08, 12:38 PM
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Ok, now we r going places

Ok my friend, now we can talk. I now understand where u are coming from.

Follow this program 3 times a week, every other day, for 6 weeks and tone up. Give 3 minutes recovery between exercises

(Aim for speed)

Chest

Normal press ups

4 sets to failure, 2 minutes recovery between sets.

Decline press ups

4 sets to failure, 2 minutes recovery between sets

Wide range press ups

4 sets to failure, 2 minutes recovery between sets

Decline wide range press ups

4 sets to failure, 2 minutes recovery between sets


Abdominals (slow-controled movements, 3-minute recovery between exercises)

Crunches

4 sets to failure, 1 minute recovery between sets

Scissors

4 sets to failure, 1 minute recovery between sets

Leg raises, bended knees

4 sets to failure, 1 minute recovery between sets

Obligue crunches

4 sets to failure, 1 minute recovery between sets

Treadmill

30 - 45 minute cardio (5 min build up to 160 bpm, stay between 160 - 170 bpm after that, 5 min cool down )

Use 3 of your recovery days to do something else, like swimming for example for at least 30 minutes, don't forget your POLAR.

Nutrition

Aim for 2000 calories a day, avoid consuming refined carbs after 18:00 (go for a salad with either a stake, or chicken, or shrimps)
1 multivitamin per day, 2 litres of water (or sugar-free diluted juice)

You will need a POLAR watch for this. Don't eat less than 1700 calories.

What about his back and his legs? Before you start wondering, i will give you a program for that as well, after you complete 2 weeks of the above. Let me know if and when u r going to start it. If u don't get a POLAR watch don't even bother, we will be running in the dark!!!
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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #21 (permalink)  
Old May. 18/08, 09:25 PM
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I would bulk very cleanly if I was you, You dont have enough muscle to warrant cutting at this stage
A harsh reality, but he's spot-on right and it don't get no righter.

You don't need to lose any weight; it's not that fat is covering your muscle, it's that you don't have a whole lotta muscle to begin with. You're a perfectly healthy typical young man and dare I say it may be a bit too early to try to start stacking serious bulk on your frame....but start with some weights and progress from there. Chances are, along the way, you'll lose what tiny fraction of fat you have around your waist.

Might wanna buzz that hair a bit tighter...get away from that youthful boyish look. Btw, the cabinetry in the background should have an oil-based varnish, that water-based stuff won't hold-up!
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  I''m cutting, and yet gaining weight! Post #22 (permalink)  
Old May. 28/08, 11:31 AM
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Literally the subject. Here''s a short version of my history. I''m 18 years old and 6 months ago I weighed 210 pounds at a height of 5''6". Today I weigh 153 pounds. Basically all I did was eat less and less and less while on/off gym. At around 160 pounds simply eating less was no longer really helping so I got advice from one of the gym trainers. I upped my calories to around 1500-1700 or so and started weight lifting. I dropped down to 156 where I stayed for a while. My goal is to be 140-145, so I still was not satisfied.

I then went online and researched and was told to eat more as my current intake of calories was "starving" myself. I followed that advice around 2 weeks ago. I also started a log around this time. FitDay.com - Diet and Fitness journal for mcFreid

Now, At first it seemed to be working but recently I''ve been going up! I thought it was a one-day thing, but it doesn''t seem to be going away.

To give a quick summary of my routine these days if your not interested in looking at the detailed fitday log, it is this.

Food: 2000-2100 cal split to 50%prot/30%fat/20%carb

Exercise: Mon/Thurs-Vigirous Lifting
Tues/Wed/Fri: Combination of HIIT/7-8min Mile/Mod Intensity Cardio
Sat/Sun: Whatever exercise I can fit in.

Please help me out and tell me what''s going on with my body!
Introducing one of the most powerful tools one can use on the goal path:

I support and advocate tracking calories and macro-nutrients--"dependent upon the individual person" which would include their current diet and fitness knowledge, and the individual's level of "personal science".

What is ones "Personal Science"?

It is the LEVEL of personal implentation of diet and fitness into ones way of life that solicates a lifestyle change that applies "enough of the person" to achieve the goal they desire. This includes making difficult decisions and easy applied decisions.

Tracking has a POWERFUL PLACE within ones personal goal quest, IMO.

One can "manipulate past data in the present" based on ready available data and will be able to:

Manipulating the Diet (by having tangible data to work from)

and

Manipulating Fitness Training (by having tangible data to work from)


Which equals (=) KING of personal SUPPLEMENTS.

and allows for "potentially" accurate:

Deficit Diet (calorie manipulations) + (nutrient manipulations) + (exercise change/manipulations) = dealing effectively with tissue loss/gain complications.

Personal history data, IMO, can assist with OPTIMIZiING results, and can arm one with a MIGHTY tool to make adjustments when or if:

A Plateau Develops.

Then this can:

Build a "personal knowledge base" to support ones goal and CAN reduce the potential of failure if applied correctly specific to the person.


Additionally, it can bring in powerful tools that can be used when one tracks their diet and training correctly, and bring forth the power it possesses to:

1. Combat cravings
2. Be allowed to eat more (at intervals) and keep deficits
3. Assist to prevent plateaus, and to pinpoint when plateaus begin and have tools to work with to find a solution within the diet and fitness data.

To name a few.

Manipulating calories Vs. fitness training data can be a powerful tool IF one knows how to use it.

It also can ASSIST in preventing:

I dont know what is happening! I am not losing weight or gaining weight!

or

" THE I DONT KNOW PROBLEM (because of no history of bodily adaption), so I dont know what to do"

Through ARMING YOURSELF WITH THE TOOLS TO COMBAT THIS.

In addition:

When you add in an on-going education IN DIET and in WEIGHT TRAINING........then you can USE this education to CHANGE the diet and/or training to break the plateau with USING YOUR HISTORY



Breif Synopis


EDIT:

I have been successful, because I have a "Hungry Heart".

Lay it Down...BABY!.........

And do not carry a BACKPACK..of negatives on your BACK........>eliminate it through a "Hungry Heart!"

Come on! Brotha and Sista's............have a "Hungry Heart!"

Let it "shiver your spine" with motivation and love for yourself and what you are doing!........YES!

----------------------------------------------->It will not desert you and never fail you.

Oh, yes!........all forum Brotha and Sista's, it doesnt matter what people say:

Everybody........has a "Hungry Heart!"..........Everybody's got a "Hungry Heart!"

If you take a ride on a "Hungry Heart" you will never look back you will always attack.

From my heart to yours, I wish all of you success. I wish all of you to EARN your dreams...........and make a "Hungry Heart" your home



Best wishes


Chillen

Last edited by Chillen; May. 28/08 at 11:58 AM.
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