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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #16 (permalink)  
Old Jun. 30/08, 12:17 PM
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Gotta say thanks for the well written posts BSL and others, it helps a lot for some of us trying to tweak our routines once we're into a decent pattern.
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #17 (permalink)  
Old Jul. 07/08, 05:31 PM
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run with it, fuel the obsession and find what works for you. Hope that helps or at least confuses ya! [/QUOTE]

Amen to that! People give such different advice but at the end of the day, what works for one person doesn't work for another.
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #18 (permalink)  
Old Jul. 07/08, 06:54 PM
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Amen to that! People give such different advice but at the end of the day, what works for one person doesn't work for another.
So true!
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #19 (permalink)  
Old Aug. 18/08, 02:55 AM
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GREAT QUESTION.....one I've often pondered.

From what I gather, the moment you eat something and the digestion of that nutrients results in the infusion of glucose.....your blood sugar will rise and the oxidation of fat will be reduced.

Fact is, energy is energy and when you eat something that energy will not be stored so long as your body is in a good exertion mode; it'll be burned! So it stands to reason that bringing-in some 300 calories from a protein shake WOULD redirect the body from burning that amount from your storage.

Understand, your body is getting it's energy from a combination of sources...fat, glycogen, etc......but yeah; a portion of that energy is coming from fat and if you import some energy by eating it'll be used in addition to what your body has in storage. Hope that makes sense and it's prime for debate.

So here's the conflict: you SHOULD replace & replenish your carbs & take-in some protein immediately after weight-training...but in doing so you'll be taking-in calories that will offset some fat you could burn when you continue to do cardio after your weights.

If you REALLY wanna gain muscle, then hit the shake and avoid cardio for fear of catabolism.

If you wanna catch some prime fat-burn zone, then do some cardio after weights, but try to keep it to a low to mid intensity, something your body can fuel using fat and do it for about 20-45 minutes. Still concerned? Pop a few BCAA's to avoid catabolism, and sip about 1/3 your protein shake. The protein will take a while to digest and it'll inhibit the digestion of the carbs a bit too...long enough so that most your energy will come from stored fat.

There is no "selector-switch" that will allow you to burn only pure fat, but after weight-training and given a continued low intensity demand, fat is the bodies primo fuel and you'll be in high-ratio to burn it.

It's a lot of info and Lord knows it varies with people, circumstances and all sorts of other stuff....but I say run with it, fuel the obsession and find what works for you. Hope that helps or at least confuses ya!
This is exactly the info i'm looking for.

I have been training hard since the beginning of this year, aim to lose weight and get larger lean look. So far so good. Lost 2 stone and muscle mass is approx 9st from total 11st 5-7. I've been told i look very good

I train 5 days a week, and 3 of which i have always done intense 2 1/2hrs cardio (spin, treadmill, stepper)...THEN 45 mins free weights. I had a protein shake before gym and after weights

Just this week i read about doing weights first. So i'm trying:

protein shake
cardio: cycle to gym (10 mins)
weights: free weights (45 mins)
cardio: running - intervals (20 mins)
cardio: spin class - intervals (60 mins)
cardio: stepper - intervals (60 mins)
protein shake
cardio: cycle home (10 mins)

I was wondering whether i should have a protein shake after weights, before main cardio, but i don't want to miss any fat burning!!

What is wrong with doing this amount of cardio after weights...and what can i take/do to minimise any problems? Would taking some Branch Chain Amino Acids tablets stop any catabolism from cardio after weights? Surely anything taken in pill form would take 60 mins to digest and get into the bloodstream? Should i revert back to doing weights after?
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #20 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 01/08, 01:53 PM
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I understand how after a decent weight session your fuel reserves are depleted and a follow up cardio session will burn fat, but does the protein shake after the weight session affect the bodies ability to burn fat ? Does cardio session immediately after the weight session affect the ability for muscles to recover ?
Yes - I take a shake right after the weights, then 10-15 mins later do the cardio. After cardio, another shake. Most days though, I do the cardio first thing in the morn, and do the weights in the afternoon.
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #21 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 02/08, 06:56 AM
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is there a particular brand recommended?
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #22 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 06/08, 04:26 PM
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I would say to do them on different days, cardio and lifting weights are two separate things so do them separate
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #23 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 15/08, 06:53 AM
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when i was doing cardio after the weights i was really loosing fat so i think this is the best way of loosing fat but without a diet it is imposible..
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  Protein Shakes, Weight lifting and cardio: which order? Post #24 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 15/08, 06:54 AM
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i think you should focus on the diet because this is the most important thing.
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