There is no "dictation" here, but rather suggestions, reccomendations, and opinions, that the OP can read and make decisions from.

Energy drinks, what kind are you speaking about? Lets hope its not the kind that gives one a "boat load" of caffiene in a relatively a few ounces of drink.

I can't get over the feeling of slim fast diets (though they claim to have "so called" ingredients to curb hunger), as a diet (I personally) would feel hungry all the time, due to drinking "liquid" over 90% of the time. Sure some have lost weight on these sorts of diet; I will suggest, however there are better approaches than these "commercialized" diet remedies.

One doesnt need to buy "commercialized" diets. There is one deadly Combo: The self and the kitchen (we all have these)

Gnutella, if one is on a drip at the hospital, I am sure there are other problems to concern themselves with rather than worry "specifically" about their contents of their diet goals, and the actions performed in this sort of enviroment are "necessary" at the time.

The OP said their goal is " to lose weight " - which in most cases involves creating some form of calorie deficit, be it from reducing your calorie intake, burning off extra calories through exercise or both.

To me, " Don't drink your calories. Get rid of juice and such. Drink more water " simply means that if you want to seek areas where you can restrict your calorie intake and seek out more " good carbs " ( i.e re GI etc. ) as the basis of your overall carb intake , then beverages are a good place to start, be they latte's, diet & non-diet sodas, juices etc. When you're trying to cut calories, juices represent " low hanging fruit " ( excuse the pun ) IMO . And. from a calorie perspective, some juices can not only be more ' calorie dense ' than others juices and other drinks, but they may lack some of the other things non fluid carbs can provide you like fiber etc. So, when faced with the choice of where to allocate your daily carbs, juices may not be the most optimal choice as part of a traditional meal plan - though they may be better suited as part of some form of pre or post training nutrition.

I thought I was in the minority on that issue Der,

I don't drink juice, even all natural juice because you get all the sugar without the fiber

Actually, if you're trying to pack on calories as part of bulking / adding some weight ' diet ' - and looking for ways to boost calories - THEN natural unsweetened fruit juices can have their place IMO.

btw - I have one of those Breville juicers - use it mostly for veggies, but once in a while , I love to throw in some whole apples, oranges, pears, chunks of pinapple, etc. - the juice is amazing !

+rep for you, Der....

That was fricken hilarious.....ROTFL!!!

Couldnt help it.....

This is ridiculous. Why are we still responding to gnut? He's obviously Tribal. Why is he not banned?

Not too many mods are on this weekend that are well adversed to the situation. And, I have Pm'd LV about the circumstances surrounding Gnutella v Tribal.

I hope he doesnt mind me saying so: but he said the IP's are different, and stated he would keep monitoring.


EDIT: we just have to be a bit patient, it will be taken care of I think

Hey careful dude, you might lose it. Its bad enough being ignorent, but you can't say those kind of things.

Hey Bubba calm down. You upset or somethin? You were going off about calories and juice and water, which looked out of place.

Then your upper body would be your full body :P

Hey dude, what is Bubba on about body workouts? The OP was asking what is your diet? Is this some kind of code?

IP's are different.

The easiest way to remove calories is to make the change to water. Sodas, V8, etc are all calories that can be removed. Removing 2 sodas per day at 200 cals each will net you 3500 over the course of one week. Thats 1lb if you didnt know.

Same thing goes for trying to add weight. Look where you can "sneak" in the calories.

wrangell we've had this discussion b4 =P when I first came here if you don't remember, Well I advocate a lean protien diet that is higher protien than carbs like 50%, 30%, 20% p/c/f because it lowers your insulin levels and there's a far lower chance of glycogen turning to fat in periods of rest, (with the right exercises it also is better for increasing testosterone). Also I don't know the biological reasons behind 20% but that's typically what you need for the right hormone production and for your skin. Except in keto diets i've always heard 20% for all other types of diet.. but I don't know the reasoning behind 20%... what would you use that other 5% fat for? 25% protien isn't enough protien for muscle repair if your lifting, 50% carbs would require alot of aerobic activity, and there is a higher chance of obtaining excess glycogen. If you obtain excess protien it goes right through you most of the time anyway.

basically it's too inefficient as an enregy source, in addition it's the most highly thermogenic food during digestion so it takes more calories just to digest than other foods and your body can almost always use aminos for various tissues. I'm not saying it can't ever, i'm only saying it so very rarely turns to fat, and that's when your on a WEIGHT LOSS diet and lifting to tone... if your eating 3200 calories and so eating 400g's of protien at 50% that's way different than eating 1600 calories and 200g's of protien.