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  Amount you can bench = amount of pushups? Post #1 (permalink)  
Old Jan. 04/06, 08:11 AM
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Amount you can bench = amount of pushups?

Is there a connection between how many push-ups you can do and what you can bench? Or is there no connection at all?

Just Curious
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Old Jan. 04/06, 08:32 AM
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Im no expert, but my guess is no relation. Once you get to a point, basic pushups become more of an endurance exercise, which would not be related to your maximum bench.
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I would bet there is a relationship between being able to do a lot of good (Full range/strict) push ups and being able to bench a lot in relation to your bodyweight, but little or no relation going the other way. In other words find a guy who can do a lot of push ups and I'll bet he can bench a lot, find a guy who focuses on bench and I'll bet he won't be able to do a lot of push ups. Gymnasts hardly ever lift weights, most of their work is done with bodyweight. However they are generally strength freaks. Not uncommon to see a gymnasts do a 2.5 -3X bodyweight deadlift the first time they try.
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Old Jan. 04/06, 09:43 AM
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In a push up you are technically bench pressing planet Earth (think about it)
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Old Jan. 04/06, 11:24 AM
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No, in push ups you're just doing your own bodyweight.
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Old Jan. 04/06, 11:26 AM
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I would bet there is a relationship between being able to do a lot of good (Full range/strict) push ups and being able to bench a lot in relation to your bodyweight, but little or no relation going the other way. In other words find a guy who can do a lot of push ups and I'll bet he can bench a lot, find a guy who focuses on bench and I'll bet he won't be able to do a lot of push ups. Gymnasts hardly ever lift weights, most of their work is done with bodyweight. However they are generally strength freaks. Not uncommon to see a gymnasts do a 2.5 -3X bodyweight deadlift the first time they try.
I'm sure gymnasts are stronger than the average person, but I'm not sure about a 2-3x dead, simply because they haven't trained the neurological aspect of the lift, like recruitment patterns and such.
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Old Jan. 04/06, 01:46 PM
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I'm sure the relationship is there, it isn't the exact same motion, but it's fairly close. You don't have to train in high reps to do a lot of reps with a low % of your max weight, so if someone can bench a lot in relation to their weight, they can do a lot of pushups.

But doing a lot of pushups won't give you a high 1RM, so I think the relationship is the inverse that Gard mentioned.
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Mreik and Muck. I used to believe exactly the way you do. Would have sworn by it, until I saw gymnasts exposed to weightlifting for the first time. They were doing exactly what I said. Blew my mind.
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Old Jan. 04/06, 04:41 PM
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They didn't get to that kinda shape doing pushups though.
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You know I was thinking about this on the way home. You are probably right. A lot of work on unstable apparatus. Now I wonder if you had someone do bench press on a slackline what kind of monster you could build.
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no relationship what so ever.
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no relationship what so ever.
there is relationship as long as strength and shape is concerned. they are all getting stronger
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Old Jan. 04/06, 09:14 PM
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One is a bodyweight exercise and one isn't, even if that were the only difference, that's a huge difference.
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