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Jan. 25/08, 10:41 AM
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| | you shouldn't have your hip as high as in an RDL (which is with back almost parallel to the floor) if you can pull more this way there's a bigger chanse that you'r form is wrong when you drop the hips and you need to correct something than that you're just stronger with the hips tha high.
The vid from that guy was shown from front though, it looked more like he was beding his upper back (which is ok) than having his back almost parallel to the floor. | 
Jan. 25/08, 10:43 AM
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| | | A deadlift is all about just picking up the weight from the ground. Some people will have stronger quads and want to scoot a little lower. Some people have strong hams and back and will start with higher hips. Either way, just pick the bar off the ground in whatever fashion suits you best.
Smith, your leg workout looks quad and glute dominant. Deadlift variations like Straigh legged dl's, RDLS, etc, work the hamstrings more. Unless you really just don't want to do it, there's really no reason to not DL and squat on the same day. Just make one the emphasised exercise. Like if you want to bring your squat up, just go lighter on the DL or vice versa. | 
Jan. 25/08, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Drex If you pause the video right before the weight comes off the ground his back is getting close to being parallel with the floor. | Also, I forgot to say, I don't know where you took geometry, but that looks a good 25 degrees off parallel to me. | 
Jan. 25/08, 11:34 AM
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| | I pulled out my protractor. It's roughly 24.65 degrees with an error of .03%.
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Jan. 25/08, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LeiYunFat I pulled out my protractor. It's roughly 24.65 degrees with an error of .03%.
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Jan. 25/08, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by [Focus] Also, I forgot to say, I don't know where you took geometry, but that looks a good 25 degrees off parallel to me.  | Are you commenting on where he sets up for the 25 degrees? I was referring to the position he was in after he pulled his hips up, right before the weight comes off the ground. That doesn't look like 25 degrees to me. I also said close to parallel, and is a long ways off from the 45 degree angles I have seen listed as correct form. The form looks a lot like mine, which I heard was bad and was working on corrections.
Karky, I think you were looking at the second video. The first one is a side angle. | 
Jan. 25/08, 12:36 PM
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| | | If you keep your back straight and only bend at the hips you could go parallel (not most peoples power area).,Just like Lei said, it's whatever you wanna work. | 
Jan. 25/08, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Drex Are you commenting on where he sets up for the 25 degrees? I was referring to the position he was in after he pulled his hips up, right before the weight comes off the ground. That doesn't look like 25 degrees to me. I also said close to parallel, and is a long ways off from the 45 degree angles I have seen listed as correct form. The form looks a lot like mine, which I heard was bad and was working on corrections. | Yep. Right as the weight comes up, he's at 25.
You make an interesting, point, though. This thread has definitely been revealing for me. I dropped my poundage on this lift way down to do it something like he is, except I bring my hips right down to the 45 degree mark. When I do, though, I feel it in my delts and quads more than my back. Oddly enough, I feel RDL's in my back rather than my hams, despite the fact that my form is very good from what I can tell. (I've filmed it and analysed it, lol... I really am quite a nerd).
The thing is, I can lift 2 to 3 times the weight on normal DLs by doing them more like the guy in the second video. And, as they say, if you're able to lift like that consistently without hurting yourself, what is "the right way"? I feel so much more powerful just tearing the weight off the ground than doing this silly 45 degree straight-backed ballerina ****. So, yeah, I dunno. I've also never been injured, in any way, in my entire life, (and I was quite active and did some incredibly dangerous things, at times) so I'm really not at all concerned about hurting myself with a little rounding of my back. I just feel like I should do it right... but if doing it "right" is giving me a lesser workout than just givin' er and getting that weight off the ground, well, that's pretty dumb, isn't it? |  | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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