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  How Do They Do It? Post #16 (permalink)  
Old Feb. 11/08, 02:18 PM
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I have no numbers to give you. But yeah, when you're a movie star who's handed a personal fitness chef and a trainer, and your 'job' is to get muscled up for a movie, its a lot easier than working a 40 hour week, juggling daily life, AND making your own meals and workout routine. and you don't have a trainer whipping you like a dog to keep motivated.

think about how much money he makes. You'd swear off twinkies for 3 months if it meant a couple million dollars, no?

The first answer is the best answer.

Seriously, you can't compare your life to a celebrity.
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Old Feb. 11/08, 02:26 PM
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Really?? On all the threads i've posted on this forum everyone recommends i do 3 FBW's a week with only basic compounds.... I do consider myself a relatively hardgainer (if there is such a thing)..

But i have ALL the time in the world... should i be doing more??
I read your other thread. You're a hardgainer because your recovery sucks. Not eating enough is holding you back, not the amount of work you're doing. If you hit your FBW hard and eat hard you will see gains. You won't see gains if you do only one of those things.

Hardgainer=/=advanced
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Old Feb. 11/08, 02:38 PM
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I read your other thread. You're a hardgainer because your recovery sucks. Not eating enough is holding you back, not the amount of work you're doing. If you hit your FBW hard and eat hard you will see gains. You won't see gains if you do only one of those things.

Hardgainer=/=advanced
Diet is fixed now so i'm going fine.

Anyway you say that Ed Norton gained what? 30 pounds in 6 months....

6 months = 24 (closer to 25) weeks = 1.2 - 1.25 pounds a week..

That isnt that difficult to do when all your meals are prepared for you... and probably prepared to minimize fat gain.

He could have even gained the weight in 5 months and cut for a month or so.... it's not that extreme considering his resources.
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Old Feb. 11/08, 02:41 PM
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That's good. So now just hit your fbw for a month or two, and see how you feel before you add more.
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Old Feb. 11/08, 09:19 PM
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Just an arbitrary comment: Maybe I should quit my job for the next six months and pretend I've been granted a starring role in this films sequel.
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Old Feb. 11/08, 09:49 PM
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Just so you have the excuse to tat swastikas on your chest?
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Old Jul. 20/08, 06:21 AM
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Ok, this is info from imdb.com.... He gained 30 pounds for the movie and the word fu** was used 205 times
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Old Jul. 20/08, 02:14 PM
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I was wondering how long it takes celebrities to get big for their action roles. I remember a post about Daniel Craig but my question is about Edward Norton in American History X (great film). The is usually very thin but he is massive in the film. Any one know haw long it took him to get that big (I know that he had nutritionists, trainers etc.)
Thanks for any ideas.
Decca.

You don't lean out and put on 30 pounds of new muscle in 6 months naturally. Sorry.
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Old Jul. 20/08, 02:34 PM
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Decca.

You don't lean out and put on 30 pounds of new muscle in 6 months naturally. Sorry.
Those were my thoughts as well, but I'mma do my best to prove you wrong, jp.
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Old Jul. 28/08, 12:19 PM
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I have to agree with jpfitness. Our bodies only have the ability to gain so much muscle mass naturally. When you add performance enhancing substances to the equation, it becomes a lot easier to gain muscle mass because the recovery time is shorter and you have more hormones surging through your veins to promote muscle growth. But it isn't "real".

Every time you work out, you "damage" your muscle tissue (you get microscopic tears to muscle fibers). The reaction to this damage is to build more muscle. But you only have so many amino acids to lay down the framework with. So you want to replenish what your muscles have lost, i.e., glycogen and protein as soon as possible after working out. Loss of glycogen while you're working out and post-workout promotes muscle loss because you become catabolic.

You also have free radical damage after a workout (oxidative stress). These free radicals are unstable, and will pull electrons from muscle cell membrances to stabilize themselves. This is not a good thing, mmmKay?

I eat prunes, raisins, blueberries or blackberries after a workout. They grab the nasty free radicals and help prevent muscle soreness and stiffness after a tough workout. These fruits have the highest oxygen radical absorbance capacities (ORAC) so instead of the electrons in your muscle membrances being scavanged by free radicals, the ORAC's will scoop up the free radicals for you. Theoretically speaking, anyway

Prunes give you far more bang for your buck. They have about twice the ORACs as raisins and blueberries per 100 grams (3.5 oz). Just don't eat too many ... if you know what I mean. I eat 4 prunes before my workout and 4 afterwards. So far so good (i.e., no colon blow issues).

Since your muscles can utilize glycogen 2-3 times faster in the first couple of hours after a workout, you want to replenish carbs right after your workout. But you also need protein to rebuild the muscle tissue.

So what you want to do is try to eat a 4:1 carb/protein ratio after your workout. That kicks in the insulin and anabolic reactions you want. Insulin promotes anabolic reactions in the body (basically, insulin counteracts cortisol, which is a catabolic). Your body is very insulin-sensitive after working out, so work with it

This is very simple, but it works for me like a charm. I'm rarely sore after a workout, regardless of what I've done, how many new exercises I've added to my workout, or how much weight I've added to the bar/machine. Since I like to work out 5-6 days a week, I'm very happy when I'm not hurting

I'd love to hear if anybody else does this after a workout, and whether or not it works for them.

Just my $0.02. Don't know if it's worth $0.02, though ...

Last edited by i_love_muscle; Jul. 28/08 at 12:21 PM. Reason: I'm functionally illiterate
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