| » Stats |
Members: 104,997
Threads: 38,572
Posts: 362,532
Top Poster: Karky (9,553) | | Welcome to our newest member, totti | |
If you register for free, you will be able to post threads, vote on polls and lots more. If you have problems with the registration or logging in, please contact the administrator.
 | 
Oct. 27/05, 10:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 222
| | | Kettlebells Can anyone clarify- what is the difference btwn a kettlebell and a dumbbell of the same weight?
And are they worth buying, considering the price? | 
Oct. 27/05, 10:03 PM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | hiooo yea i only use kettlebells. the weight is displaced so your body is always tensing while holding it. You can rest a dumbell in lockout, but not a kettlebell. The reasons for which i explain won't sound appealing, I suggest you try one out. A kettlebell is definetly worth the money. I'm in better shape than "almost" anyone I know and I've got a better body (its sounds lame I know) and all i use is two 53lb kettlebells. Check out dragondoor.com | 
Nov. 01/05, 03:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 222
| | | Will you not need to upgrade as you get used to the weight though? | 
Nov. 04/05, 11:00 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | It takes a LOT of work to move up a weight. Unless you buy a bell which is very light to begin with, I've had my 53lbs bells since May. I don't plan on getting new ones anytime soon. Maybe I'll be ready for a 70lbs by the end of the summer, but you really gotta make it your goal to move up a bell. | 
Nov. 17/05, 05:25 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 222
| | | Where would you guys say is the best place to buy KBs.
I have found a site called power systems where they are much cheaper than everywhere else- has anyone bought stuff from them before? Is it good quality stuff?
Dragondoor is just too damn expensive! | 
Nov. 17/05, 08:18 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | Yea, dragondoor is ridiculously expensive. I've only bought two kettlebells and they are all from dragondoor. I know the owner of the only kettlebell gym in America and he said that all the other places are weighted weird and are crap. You want a good ratio of weight between the bell, and the handle. If not, the exerices are weird.
From what I understand there are two kbells in the 44lbs area and 62lb area, I guess that tehse are that great either, not weighted well. I'd buy Russian Kettlebell DVD from dragondoor.com and try some of the exercises with a dumbell. Finout what type of weight you like and buy a kbell around that weight. | 
Nov. 17/05, 11:17 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 346
| | | Mike did a good job describing the difference between kettlebells and dumbells.All I'll add to that is becuase the weight is displaced (due to the kettlebell's design) your muscles have to work like hell to stabilize the weight.A dumbell is a perfectly balanced weight implement, while a kettlebell is unbalanced.It basically makes the lifts harder and more productive IMO.
I have purchased 4 kettlebells; 3 from Dragondoor and 1 from GillAthletics.Yes, Dragondoor is extremely expensive, but you definitely get a quality product.The Gill kettlebell was fine, but the handle was shaped differently and for some reason, this made snatches and cleans feel awkward, otherwise, the Gill kettlebell was fine.I think they charge about half of what Dragondoor does. | 
Nov. 17/05, 12:05 PM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | Right on ballast! Good to hear from another Kbeller or gerivoy (spelling?)
One other thing is that if you are to do something like a chest press with the kettlebell and hold it at lockout, your pec muscle gets put under some serious tension. If you do this with a dumbell the weight is loaded onto your bones, balanced, and there is far less tension in your pec, this results in a much tighter, firmer and stronger muscle, the kbell that is. | 
Nov. 18/05, 01:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 222
| | | I am actually in the UK and there is a company called Powerseekers which sells them for £40 (8kg) upwards- about $70? | 
Nov. 18/05, 08:05 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | i'd check and see how their customers feel about them. post a message on dragondoor.com and ask how people liked them. like i said, you want the bell to constructed well, good weight distribution between handle and bell, good style of grip on the handle, good length on the handle. dragondoor.com apparently, i've only used dragondoor.com kbells, has THE best, by far, kbells. | 
Nov. 18/05, 08:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 222
| | | I wanted to ask about power-systems KBs on dragondoor. Will I get told off for talking about another company- them guys seem pretty intense! | 
Nov. 18/05, 09:54 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | naa, just explain your situation and that your short on cash.
yea people there are pretty intense about training, but no one talks trash or anything, pretty helpful and i'm sure if there are good things to be said about power-systems, it will be said, just explain ur situation. and if you do get told off, who cares, its the internet | 
Nov. 28/05, 07:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 222
| | | Just got my KBs- wow! Amazing!
Just one question, when I am doing swings and snatches I find it hard to slow the weight down and it pulls on my lower back- any hints? | 
Nov. 28/05, 11:38 AM
| | Junior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 293
| | | yea, firstly, don't do swings yet.
Secondly, my back would become tight and irritated when I first used KB's because I was using them wrong, almost everyone has this problem. If you can find a kettlebll certified person in your area then definetly meet with them for a half hour.
Firstly, the swing looks like it comes from your shoulder. It shouldn't. All the movement should come from your hips. Start out with your feet somewhat wide than shoulder width. Have both hands on the horns of the bell. Bend you knees so that they are almost at 90 degrees. Keep your back arched and always looking forward. You should be holding the bell between your legs and slightly behind your knees. Now Nudge the bell backwards like you are hiking a football and explode through your hips and let the bell pop forward. It should come up about to your waist. You will be standing up straight, with your arms locked out and the bell at waist height, your legs lock and you butt muscles clenched. Now, fall with the bell. Like when someone tosses you a bowling ball and you kinda go down with it to absorbe the shock. Bend your knees and bring the bell between your legs again and let it go back far enough so you feel some tension on your hamstrings. Now, explode through your hips again. You should barely feel it in your shoulders, its all in the hips. Exhale on the way up, inhale on the way down. Practice just your swings for two weeks and then your ready for more.
It's not uncommon at all that your back hurts. It will hurt if you do it wrong, however I find that if my lower back gets a little tweaked doing deadlifts or any other lift, some good kbell swings help loosen it up.
check out punchgym.com and watch the movie trailer for art of strenght. you will breifly see perfect swing form. when you have perfect form you can do 100 swings no problem. also, buy the DVD if you got the cash, best workout with a kbell ever! | 
Nov. 28/05, 03:52 PM
|  | We are all one | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Santa Maria, CA
Posts: 5,591
| | | I want to try a kettlebell first...nobody I know has one. A shame. |  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
More threads of cannavaro | | Thread | Date | Forum | Replies | Last Post | Your one favourite exercise?
Your one favourite exercise?: I would have to nominate the Uppercut Press- It...
| Nov. 26/05 | Weight Training | 32 | Dec. 02/05 03:25 PM | Deadlift Types?
Deadlift Types?: Can someone please clarify the differences btwn...
| Nov. 25/05 | Weight Training | 3 | Nov. 25/05 05:02 AM | Twisting Drills?
Twisting Drills?: I am trying to gather together some twisting...
| Nov. 23/05 | Weight Training | 5 | Nov. 23/05 11:31 AM | New Superfood discovered!
New Superfood discovered!: Has anybody heard about this new superfood that...
| Nov. 22/05 | Articles and Research | 1 | Nov. 22/05 06:31 AM | Best resistance bands?
Best resistance bands?: Is the dynaband a good choice or are there better?
| Nov. 14/05 | Fitness Equipment | 3 | Nov. 16/05 10:28 AM |
Other threads in forum Weight Training | | Thread | Date | Thread Starter | Replies | Last Post | What's the best way to get BIG ab muscles.
What's the best way to get BIG ab muscles.: I am not concerned with them showing up, because...
| Jan. 19/08 | realworksuks | 44 | Feb. 08/08 12:48 PM | Lats are uneven.
Lats are uneven.: I just noticed this as I was flexing in the...
| Oct. 31/07 | arc1509 | 2 | Nov. 01/07 04:59 AM | A quicky.....I still ache.....SHould I train?
A quicky.....I still ache.....SHould I train?: I still ache from a real hard football training...
| Jan. 09/07 | Capf | 4 | Jan. 09/07 08:05 AM | How is my routine?
How is my routine?: Monday: Chest Press, Lat Pulldown, Shoulder...
| Aug. 16/06 | FitnessQuest | 2 | Aug. 16/06 07:28 PM | have one urgent question pls help
have one urgent question pls help: hi , lets begin from the start
ive been...
| May. 08/06 | gunit | 9 | May. 10/06 05:55 AM | | » Online Users: 231 | | 6 members and 225 guests | | gelab, hatcht9x, Karky, totti, Woopydalan, x3malex | | Most users ever online was 1,736, Apr. 17/07 at 06:27 PM. | |