I got a real weakness off the floor in my DL. Now as I'm going heavy on power shrugs, I feel limited by my off the floor weakness. with DLs and power shrugs I'm now lifting heavy off the floor 2 times a week.
However, I was wondering if it could be too much? I was thinking about starting to do the power cleans from hang, or simply switching to hang power snatches (haven't done power snatches in a long time).

Kark: I'm not a fan of deadlifting more than once a week, I'm sure that's open to debate, but I find that a movement as large and powerful as a deadlift is really most effective performed once a week.

What you could try to increase your off the floor power: Drop the weight at the top. Some experts have espoused that the negative deadlift is not an essential portion of the movement. I'm not sure I agree with them in totality, but I tend to think it's a nice way to change up your deadlift, and hopefully secure some gains.

yeah, I don't like DLing more than once a week either. In the beginning the power shrugs were not a problem like that, since they were not all that heavy. But as they got heavier I started having troubble.

I don't drop the weight, but I don't go slow either. I dunno if the gym people would be too happy if I dropped the weight

Yeah once a week sounds about right to me, especially if you're pushing yourself and not just going for high frequency. As for the floor weakness, I'd maybe look into DLing on a bit of a platform. Or, I don't know if you do ATG squats but those really helped me with my initial hip explosion on the DL.

yeah, sucks I'm not back into squats yet.
I've long been thinking about alternating Dls with DLs of a platform. The way I do it now I work my way up, adding weight every week until it stops. Then lower the weight and start adding again, busting through the place it previously stopped. Maybe if instead of lowering the weight, I'll do DLs off a platform instead.
Now I'm doing 2x3 1x2 1x1 1x2 1x3. Do you think I should use a different approach to the DLs off the box?

Kark

Maybe you're doing too much? With the power shrugs, cleans, and deadlifts. I'm not necessarily saying it's true, just positing a possibility.

You might try snatch grip deadlifts and you also might try higher reps (5-8) with less weight for a few weeks or even alternating every other deadlift session. I agree with some of the others that once a week is enough of heavy deadlift frequency, especially if you are doing some heavy ATG squats and/or some other rear chain dominant movement another time during the week. For example if you do ATG sqauts and good mornings one lower session during the week and maybe deadlifts and leg press the other lower session of the week, I have found that to be plenty of lower stimulation for the week. And doing them in that order, so one session starts with a quad dominant movement and the other session with a rear chain dominant movement, and you might want do low reps/high weight (1-5) on the first movement and higher reps/lower weight (8-12) on the second movement

yeah that's what I said, and why I thought I should start doing the power shrugs from hang. Or did you mean in general CNS wise? If so, I doubt it.

GM's brought my DL up without me having to DL at all. However, they still stim similar muscles so the pulling frequency can still bother you. However, I don't think it's a big deal. You might be more tired than normal but I doubt it's detrimental, namely because the your body isn't under all that much stress since you're not pulling 30000x bodyweight every go

I am doing GMs. They haven't helped that much really. Progress is still as slow as before I started doing them.

That could be a form issue. All I know is, my weakness was also off the floor. Doing good mornings however Iw as doing them brought my DL up without me having to do much else.

What kind of form issue do you suppose? I mean, I've progressed on the GMs, it just didn't carry over much to my DL.

Maybe you need to arch your back harder and keep your legs from bending excessively, so you feel a good stretch in your hams. Maybe you might be doing all that right but just need to go lower.

My GM's are really weak but I try to get the most hip extension out of them, which is probably why they've helped me so much on the deads. The torso is atleast parallel with the floor. Sometimes I go a little deeper.

I go as deep as I can without flexing my lower back. And yeah, I feel the stretch in my hams. My guess is that it's just an individual thing. Not all exercises helps for all people.

Yeah true. What may work for an average 5'11" guy like me won't nessecarily work for a gigantic 6'15" monster like yourself :P

All I can say is for the average guy like me, snatch grip dl's and elevated deads didn't do anything close to what gm's did.