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  overtraining question Post #1 (permalink)  
Old Aug. 11/06, 07:21 PM
noodle307
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overtraining question

Hi im a 17 year old and I have a question about overtraining
My current workout I do every other day
I do the following:
Bench press-5 sets of 6
Leg Extension-5 sets of 10
Curls-5 sets of 10
leg Curls-5 sets of 10
Lat Pull down-5 sets of 10
Butterflys-5 sets of 10
Rear Lat pulldown-5 sets of 10
Situps with plate-2 sets of 60


If i were to add the following:
alternate dumbell curl
arnold dumbell press
bent arm dumbell pullover
lunges
dumbell bench
one leg calf raise
side bend
5 sets of 10 each with 25 pounds

if i were to do all of this, everyother day, would I be overtraining, or would i see signifigant results

any help you could offer would be great
thanks
Kevin

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Old Aug. 13/06, 08:50 AM
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looks like a full body routine attempt to me. which means 3x a week, or roughly every other day.

the problem i see, is your exercise choices. too much isolation, not enough compound, especially in the legs.

a good full body routine should be 6-7 exercises, with the majority being compound exercises for each major muscle group.
Bench press, military press, pull ups, bent over barbell rows, squats and deadlifts.

read this article and follow his advice on your training.
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....4-073-training
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Old Aug. 13/06, 09:05 AM
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ditto malkore
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Old Aug. 13/06, 11:59 AM
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yea i see what your saying
i mean my legs are big right now and im trying to get my upper body evenly big if not slightly bigger to make it look you know..equal

but can you elaborate more on what i should do instead?
like specifics or antying?
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Old Aug. 13/06, 12:55 PM
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Can you squat your bodyweight? Odds are, your legs are weaker than you think they are.

Let's play Find the compound exercises and isolation exercises.

Bench press - compound
Leg Extension- Isolation
Curls- isolation
leg Curls- isolation
Lat Pull down- isolation
Butterflys- I honestly have no idea what that is.
Rear Lat pulldown- compound
Situps with plate- isolation

alternate dumbell curl - isolation
arnold dumbell press - compound
bent arm dumbell pullover - isolation
lunges - compound
dumbell bench - compound
one leg calf raise - isolation
side bend - isolation

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Any decent routine will rotate around some assortment of compound movements like: squat, deadlift, bench press, bent-over row, shoulder press, pull-up. There's other moves like dips, cleans, snatches, and glute-ham raises that you will probably see at some point, as well.

Waterbury's TBT is a good routine, as well as just about everything else he's put out. I won't even start in on your odd set/rep.
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Old Aug. 13/06, 01:15 PM
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yea i see
well i never was a fan of deadlifts or squats.

all the reps and whatever, i picked up from a friend of mine who originally got me into wieght lifting. So i mean ive seen the results and what not, and i like them. so this just seems to work for me

different strokes for different folks my man
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Old Aug. 13/06, 01:28 PM
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This may sound mean.. But I dont get why you would post up your routine and ask if its good, then when other people give you advice you just tell them that it works for you so its fine. I would recommend being more open and trying new things. Especially because if that routine does work for your friend, that doesnt mean it will work for you.

Squats.. while you may not be a fan of them (probably because they are hard.. i know they are very hard), they are a staple exercise in any exercise plan. I would seriously recommend that you incorporate some more difficult exercises. Also, with regards to your ab workout. If you can do 60 reps, its not heavy enough. Either change your tempo (slow down, control it) or use more weight. By all right, if you can fire out 60 (proper form) repetitions with a plate on your chest, you should have insanely strong ab muscles. If you are just bouncing up, lose that technique and go for something where you control the contraction and have a slow eccentric (lowering) motion at the bottom of the crunch.
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Old Aug. 13/06, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noodle307
yea i see
well i never was a fan of deadlifts or squats.

all the reps and whatever, i picked up from a friend of mine who originally got me into wieght lifting. So i mean ive seen the results and what not, and i like them. so this just seems to work for me

different strokes for different folks my man
as a newbie, you will get gains nomatter what you do, but they will be much better if you do them propperly. belive me, i look back now and i regret i dident start squatting and deadlifting right away!
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Old Aug. 13/06, 02:42 PM
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well niceone, this all started not by me asking if my routine was good, just that if it would result in overworking any part of my body. I wasnt asking if it was good or not. The second part I was asking was if it would result in over doing it, what could i take out or put in to change it. And also the routine that i picked up from my friend obviously does work out for me, and I enjoy doing it. I dont think your reading what im saying right.

And with the situps, I have yet to find a plate i can just let sit on my chest and be able to hold it comfortably. Plus I dont need my abs any bigger than they are right now. Its not about getting big for me in the first place. All i wanted to know was about overtraining. Not about how great squats are, or deadlifts or any of that.
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