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  "Stop Worrying About Protein" Post #16 (permalink)  
Old Oct. 24/07, 09:16 AM
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Weight training doesn't build any muscles, in my opinion. I'm not trying to disagree with you, except that if weight training builds muscles....

then all a fat guy has to do is squat a box of donuts for breakfast, bench press a 4 lbs burrito for lunch, curl a box of french fries, twist with a box of Oreos, power crunch with a plate of biscuits and gravy on his stomach, deadlift a pot of roasted pork, pull a extra large box of cheetos, and finally, to top it all off before bed, lifting a extra large bottle of milk shake off his chest while in an inclined rocking chair watching TV.

If your diet sucks, then no amount of lifting will do good for you, at least in the long run. Vice versa, any amount of additional cals or protein will do no good if you don't do any lifting.
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Old Oct. 24/07, 09:17 AM
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yeah, you have to train for your body to build muscle. But the weight training itself doesn't build it. The processes in the body which build muscle does, sattelite cells, or whatever. But the weight training "activate" those processes. You can't build a brick house without bricks, nomatter how eager your workers are to build.

and I agree with that beginners don't need to worry so much about their protein. Aslong as they eat they will be fine. I just disagree with saying "weight training is what builds muscle"
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Old Oct. 24/07, 09:25 AM
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Also, I agree with the beginners luck. In highschool, I gotten quite strong from my weight lifting sessions and I didn't really care about diet one way or the other.

Granted, I stopped all physical activities after highschool until recently. So I've been out of it for 4 1/2 years. lol.
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Old Oct. 24/07, 10:11 AM
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Weight training doesn't build any muscles
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I just disagree with saying "weight training is what builds muscle"
Try to gain muscle without weight training. It is the primary stimulus for building muscle. Nutrition takes a distant second place.

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then all a fat guy has to do is squat a box of donuts for breakfast, bench press a 4 lbs burrito for lunch, curl a box of french fries, twist with a box of Oreos, power crunch with a plate of biscuits and gravy on his stomach, deadlift a pot of roasted pork, pull a extra large box of cheetos, and finally, to top it all off before bed, lifting a extra large bottle of milk shake off his chest while in an inclined rocking chair watching TV.
You just described the diet of many of the best strength athletes out there.

From a gaining standpoint there is one main rule of nutrition, eat enough, then eat some more.

Eat breakfast, eat all the time, and eat before and after workouts, are the rest of the rules.

All other nutrition advice comes into play if you care what you look like.

I know you guys are discussing the wording, and not the meaning, of the "protein is not important" statement. But we are discussing what was said in the video.
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Old Oct. 24/07, 03:25 PM
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Well, other than those shorts, he doesn't seem all that crazy.

At least, in the sense that you shouldn't go around thinking if you drink 6 protein shakes a day, you'll get huge cuz protein builds muscle. There are plenty of people more worried about protein intake than the quality of their program - and they wonder why they aren't huge.

You can't build muscle without working the muscle, and that will be very limited if you don't feed the muscle.

I agree with Georgen. Don't split hairs in the beginning - just get off your ass and workout, and don't forget to eat something. Pretty simple.
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