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Old Oct. 23/07, 11:42 AM
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"Stop Worrying About Protein"

Ive listened to a number of videos by this guy but in this one he claims that protein doesn't build muscle. Ive considered taking protein, what do you think?

YouTube - 159. Stop Worrying About Protein
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Old Oct. 23/07, 12:05 PM
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i didnt watch the video, but you dont "take" protein, you eat it.. just like everything else. lots of people will drink a protein shake to get their protein intake for the day.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 02:16 PM
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but what he's saying is that protein only helps to repair muscle not build it and its quite unneccessary. At best you can only build 1lb of muscle a week so the extra protein is pointless.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 02:21 PM
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I'm not going to watch the video right now, but I can say that no matter what he says in the video I will still eat and drink protein, with intent and delight.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 02:26 PM
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To be honest I dont know if he's right or not.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 02:28 PM
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I'm going to add 'fervor' to that list. Intent, delight and fervor. I dig protein.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 04:54 PM
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For me, adding protein to my diet through shakes and mixing it with yogurt and oatmeal (not at the same time of course) is a really effective way to keep my eating on track. Once I started using supplements I found that my cravings for both sugar and carbs decreased. I am not trying to build 'bulky' muscles, but I definitely had improvements in both fat loss and muscle definition as I replaced the crappy stuff I ate with protein.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 05:24 PM
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I agree with his point that you can't take a bunch of protein and expect to get big without working out. It's obvious that you need to work out in order for your body to utilize the protein you consume. However, I disagree with the statement that one does not need to "worry" or think about protein. Meal timing, and especially the time that you eat your protein does play an important role in maximizing muscle gains. The trick is finding the amount that works for you. I don't think everyone needs to be eating 200 grams of protein a day, and I think that is who this guy is trying to get at. I think there are a bunch of people who think they need excessive amounts of protein to build muscle. He's targeting those people here. However, this guy made it seem like it was unnecessary to even think about protein altogether, which I think is a bad idea. Most people eat enough protein day to day anyway, but some people do need to think about getting enough and eating it at the right times. From what I've read, a simple whey protein shake right after the workout will suffice. It has enough of the essential amino acids that take part in the muscle building process after a workout.

There's my two cents.
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Old Oct. 23/07, 05:46 PM
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Ive listened to a number of videos by this guy but in this one he claims that protein doesn't build muscle. Ive considered taking protein, what do you think?

YouTube - 159. Stop Worrying About Protein
dude could you please not believe everything you see/hear thanks
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Old Oct. 23/07, 09:32 PM
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He does make some good points. He is addressing the beginner. In the beginning, it really does not matter. Gains will be made if training is proper. In the beginning, someone who wants to gain mass, should focus on training a lot more.

As one progresses in training age, nutrition plays a bigger and bigger roll. Specifically, if the goal is to increase size, the heart and soul of nutrition is getting enough. Enough what???? Enough everything.

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At best you can only build 1lb of muscle a week so the extra protein is pointless.
There was a thread about this not too long ago. You can gain more than a pound of muscle a week. Is it going to happen consistently all the time??? No. But it is possible.

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but what he's saying is that protein only helps to repair muscle not build it and its quite unneccessary.
Remember, he is addressing the beginner. Protein does help repair muscle, as a trainee gains muscle and increases performance the need for protein increases.

Also, supplements do make life easier when it comes to getting what you need.
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Old Oct. 24/07, 12:10 AM
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There's no reason to eat more protein than you need. However, you can't say protein doesn't help. If you first eat enough protein for a year, then less than enough for a year (while training hard) guess what year you will have the best size gains?
and for those of you who will say "but the last year he is more experienced blablablabla" this is an example and you know what I mean. so STFU
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Old Oct. 24/07, 03:46 AM
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Didn't your mother ever tell you not to listen to men who wear such tight shorts?
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Old Oct. 24/07, 07:42 AM
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I didn't watch the video, but I'm going to guess that by saying, "Protein doesn't build muscles" is a correct term.

Why do you ask? Well if you just eat protein but don't have any workout plan that stresses the muscles, then you will gain no muscle mass. Eating protein will probably help repair the muscles you already have, but I don't think it will promote increase until you do something to promote growth.
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Old Oct. 24/07, 07:45 AM
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but weight training surely doesn't build muscle. Try weight training and not eating anything, you won't get any bigger. Proteins are the building blocks of muscle, but you need stimulation for the body to see growth as nessecary.
In reality, weight training breaks down muscle. Rest and food builds them up again.
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Old Oct. 24/07, 08:56 AM
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I didn't watch the video
Then don't comment on it.

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but weight training surely doesn't build muscle.
There is certainly no other way to do it.

Many people are taking what the guy wearing shorts 3 sizes too small out of context. The basis of what he is saying is this.

1. For beginners, their better results will come from learning how to train better.

This is true

2. For beginners, as long as they are eating, results will be had.

This is true

He is talking to beginners, and within a specific context.
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