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Old Sep. 20/07, 02:04 PM
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OK, I've been lifting everyday after school in the weightroom, and of course I have a schedule so I do certain exercises every-other day, but what I have been doing is curling every night before I go to bed on my biceps. I use a 10 lbs dumbbell and do 3 sets of 50 reps. Should I continue doing this every night since it's just toning, or should I also do this every-other night as well?

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Old Sep. 20/07, 02:21 PM
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10 lbs 50 reps... that's not going do anything to help you tone Go heavier with 10 reps
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Toning - definition: the act of lowering body fat, to reveal underlying muscle.

In other words, toning has jack**** to do with your training, number of reps, or weight used. It has EVERYTHING to do with your diet/calorie intake.

granted you DO need to have enough muscle to 'show off' for that chisled look with a low bodyfat percentage...otherwise you just look scrawny.

but all 50 reps with 10lbs does is build endurance. endurance places zero emphasis on growing muscle, or strength...it just builds the ability to do more reps with little weight.

that's why marathon runners don't look like bodybuilders

spend more time with us and we'll help you debunk all the myth's you've heard, and get started on the right way to train.

speaking of which, if you want bigger, defined biceps....ditch all those curls, and start doing more heavy rows and compound back exercises: seated cable rows, pull ups, chin ups, barbell or dumbbell rows, and deadlifts.
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Old Sep. 20/07, 03:17 PM
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Toning - definition: the act of lowering body fat, to reveal underlying muscle.

In other words, toning has jack**** to do with your training, number of reps, or weight used. It has EVERYTHING to do with your diet/calorie intake.

granted you DO need to have enough muscle to 'show off' for that chisled look with a low bodyfat percentage...otherwise you just look scrawny.

but all 50 reps with 10lbs does is build endurance. endurance places zero emphasis on growing muscle, or strength...it just builds the ability to do more reps with little weight.

that's why marathon runners don't look like bodybuilders

spend more time with us and we'll help you debunk all the myth's you've heard, and get started on the right way to train.

speaking of which, if you want bigger, defined biceps....ditch all those curls, and start doing more heavy rows and compound back exercises: seated cable rows, pull ups, chin ups, barbell or dumbbell rows, and deadlifts.
I actually only do those curls at night, I never curl in my weight training after the school day. I do all those exercises, with the exeption of deadlifts.

I just posted this because many people had told me little weight and a lot of reps would tone muscles more. I guess I just drop that routine then. Thanks a lot man for the advice.
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Old Sep. 20/07, 03:18 PM
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10 lbs 50 reps... that's not going do anything to help you tone Go heavier with 10 reps
That would be strength training. More weight and 10 reps. Not what I was talking about in usingt he term "toning"
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Old Sep. 20/07, 04:27 PM
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Either way, drop it and put that energy towards something more beneficial, like the lifting you do in the day.
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Old Sep. 21/07, 06:39 AM
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Then you still missed the point.

NO AMOUNT OF REPS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH TONING.

Toning, or bulking up is controlled by your diet. 10 reps is not an emphasis on strength either...8-12 reps per set is a range for hypertrophy, which equals more tissue damage, and thus larger muscles IF your diet promotes muscle growth.

Sticking low, like 4-6 reps, that targets the muscles in a manner to increase strength, with only a little size increase.

and we already discussed endurance type training, high reps, next to no weight.

toning is such a horribly mis-used word. i'm not coming down on you about it, just trying to beat a myth out of your head.

honestly, I'd still ditch those curls at night. I used to endlessly curl, and could never move past 20lbs.

then i started on full body workouts, with just compound exercises. after a couple months I started tossing curls into the end of my routine, just a set...the 'icing on the cake', because by then i'd figured out that tiny bicep muscles don't need nearly as much training as large muscles like the back, chest, quads, etc.
well, after 2 months of no curls, I found 20lbs was too light...hell 25lbs was even too easy for low rep sets.
then i looked in the mirror, and could tell my arms had gotten thicker in the last two months.

by the same token, I rarely train my triceps. they grow very easily through the various benching and overhead pressing I do, so I only isolate them about every 3rd workout.

I hope that helps clear some stuff up for you.
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